Kaguya should be FTL+ with IT amp

[ssgengar]

Kaguya speed upgrade?

Isshiki’s profile puts him at ‘far higher than FTL’ as karma v2 jigen, reason being he easily dodged sasuke’s susanoo sword attack

His profile

Base kaguya did the same thing while injured

Base kaguya being faster than naruto & sasuke

So in base she should also be ‘far higher than FTL’, by performing the same feat with an injury

Then her IT amp increases power and speed exponentially

So since her already far higher than FTL speed gains an exponential amp, then that should be at least FTL+ with infinite tsukuyomi on her profile

 

[Tdjwo]

Agreed

 

[LordTracer]

You don’t get FTL+ just because you’re far higher than FTL, you need an actual calc on that level.

 

[ssgengar]

You don’t get FTL+ just because you’re far higher than FTL, you need an actual calc on that level.

I get that but with the amp she’s stated exponentially faster than her base form, which is far higher than FTL. in other words she’s exponentially faster than when she was already far higher than FTL

 

[Shmooply]

I get that but with the amp she’s stated exponentially faster than her base form, which is far higher than FTL. in other words she’s exponentially faster than when she was already far higher than FTL

This isn't a convincing argument either. How fast is she in the FTL department? If she's incredibly close to baseline FTL+, then yea she would be that tier, but if not then the answer is obvious. I disagree with the OP.

 

[LordTracer]

I get that but with the amp she’s stated exponentially faster than her base form, which is far higher than FTL. in other words she’s exponentially faster than when she was already far higher than FTL

Then she’s just even higher into FTL. Upscaling heavily from 2.11c isn’t going to get Kaguya to FTL+.

 

[Ren1999]

so what level of kaguya speed is suitable suggested, if the op is not accepted

 

[ssgengar]

This isn't a convincing argument either. How fast is she in the FTL department? If she's incredibly close to baseline FTL+, then yea she would be that tier, but if not then the answer is obvious. I disagree with the OP.

Well before he amp she scales to karma v2 Jigen so comfortably above 2.11c, I’m not sure by how much though

 

[LordTracer]

We don’t scale Kaguya to Isshiki, and she’s just unquantifiably higher than 2.11c because there’s no calc or multiplier that lets her scale to a higher value.

 

[ssgengar]

We don’t scale Kaguya to Isshiki, and she’s just unquantifiably higher than 2.11c because there’s no calc or multiplier that lets her scale to a higher value.

Fair enough. Can you check this at least? Code at least needs an update


Thread 'Daemon & Code updated feats'
https://vsbattles.com/threads/daemon-code-updated-feats.138079/

 

[Ye_Crow_God]

Can't it be "exponentially" minimal to give 2-3× amps?

 

[Jibz]

Can't it be "exponentially" minimal to give 2-3× amps?

Exponentially as a word doesnt inherently have a minimum value.

She’d just be far higher into “far higher into ftl”. Anyways go listen to song cry by Jay Z yall.

 

[Halkum145]

Hey, I remember being told that Kaguya's strength increased exponentially. Why don't we think it gives the minimum level of 2x, because if its power is multiplied more than once, we can say at least 2x. That's why I recommend the 4.22c kaguya. (speed and ap proportional)

 

[Halkum145]

Why doesn't a one-shot character get at least 2x amps? (both speed and ap)

 

[Rozi]

Kaguya speed upgrade?

Isshiki’s profile puts him at ‘far higher than FTL’ as karma v2 jigen, reason being he easily dodged sasuke’s susanoo sword attack

His profile

Base kaguya did the same thing while injured

Base kaguya being faster than naruto & sasuke

So in base she should also be ‘far higher than FTL’, by performing the same feat with an injury

Then her IT amp increases power and speed exponentially

So since her already far higher than FTL speed gains an exponential amp, then that should be at least FTL+ with infinite tsukuyomi on her profile

how do you determine that kaguya ftl+ without calculation

 

[LordTracer]

Why doesn't a one-shot character get at least 2x amps? (both speed and ap)

Why would we? There is no universal standard for one-shots, and we’re definitely not going to use a random multiplier.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Yeah, we don't just give characters 2x multiplier for just being stronger because it's unquantifiable in the end. Someone arguing a 2x buff is just as valid as a 5x times buff, without any calculation it's basically a complete baseless assumption.

So yeah, I disagree with this update.

 

[Damage3245]

I also disagree with this.

 

[ssgengar]

Yeah, we don't just give characters 2x multiplier for just being stronger because it's unquantifiable in the end. Someone arguing a 2x buff is just as valid as a 5x times buff, without any calculation it's basically a complete baseless assumption.

So yeah, I disagree with this update.

I understand that much but for any growth to be exponential (in math) it would have to have a bare minimum multiplier of 2. In hindsight I understand ftl+ was a stretch, but can’t we at least double 2.11 ftl to 4.22 ftl

 

[LordTracer]

I understand that much but for any growth to be exponential (in math) it would have to have a bare minimum multiplier of 2. In hindsight I understand ftl+ was a stretch, but can’t we at least double 2.11 ftl to 4.22 ftl

Exponential can just mean a rapid increase, so no, we’re not gonna give Kaguya’s speed a 2x multiplier based on that.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

LordTracer is correct. This should be closed.

 

[Rozi]

Exponential can just mean a rapid increase, so no, we’re not gonna give Kaguya’s speed a 2x multiplier based on that.

I think this thread is better closed

 

[Halkum145]

Exponential can just mean a rapid increase, so no, we’re not gonna give Kaguya’s speed a 2x multiplier based on that.

Ok, there is no need to prolong this topic, I admit that it is wrong. but he has 70% otsutsuki DNA for Boruto, while adding the remaining 30% to himself. can we get amp from here?

 

[LordTracer]

This has been soundly rejected by multiple staff, so I’ll be closing it.