Naoya literally says he'll punch through her whilst he's going at "
top speed" and in the panel right before she turned around the narrator confirms Naoya had reached "
top speed". No where in the fight did Naoya stop either, you made that up.
Stop ******* using the broken links dummy, I have to figure out what the **** you're talking about when you use it and so do most other people. learn how to link properly.
If you admit she's fighting with "stiff moves" which make her easier to dodge, you agree then that she's faster afterwards?
No? Her combat speed doesn't change, she can just more fluidly move and fight more effectively.
Naoya literally says he'll punch through her whilst he's going at "
top speed" and in the panel right before she turned around the narrator confirms Naoya had reached "
top speed". No where in the fight did Naoya stop either, you made that up.
I'm talking about human Naoya there IIRC
Headcanon. If we see a character dodge something at point blank range in this manner, then it's a point blank dodge. You tried bringing up random examples which literally have their individual explanations, such as Maki being able to move her body back to grab the bullet or Yuji leaning backwards to aimdodge it which has been calced to subsonic.
They're literally the same shit, AND ESPECIALLY with piercing blood which is canonically faster than Naoya, who can blitz Yuji.
He didn't stop,
the air beneath him is still exploding which is the indication of him stacking on projection sorcery.
No? that's now he stays in the air.
It wasn't precog, it's enhancing her senses which correlates to a heavenly restriction users stats as HR universally amplifies one's body.
She doesn't even "enhance" them, she just starts noticing the stuff, and uses it in fights.
No one's saying MHS+, but anyway reread my message where I said Maki could have always possessed the stats and just lacked the ability to fully utilise said stats.
effectively is the word, but she punches at the same speed, reacts at the same speed* and has the same overall combat speed.
You didn't effectively address my consistent explanation of Gege's panelling.
I can even point to shit in the actual Naoya fight.
"Wow, Kamo blocked Supersonic Naoya from point blank range!!! He has to be supersonic too!! even better, lets calc it to like mach 6 or whatever they calced it to!!!"
Same Kamo that didn't undergo any special training to make him faster than the fastest sorcerer, and blitz levels faster. Same Kamo that's not grade 1 level. Same Kamo that considers Hanami insanely durable, but he just got a lot faster for no reason?
He concludes that Naoya (binding vow strengthened) > Hanami > Naoya (weakened)
Even worse, HE SAID HE GOT WEAKER.
"You've gotten stronger, I've only fallen behind"... right...
It's consistent that Supersonic speeds are INSANELY fast to these people, and they need to do special shit to counter them.
As for why Naoya can't tag Sumo-trained Maki:
Naoya doesn't have good redirection ability. He moves in 24fps, and it needs to be
pre-planned.
He can't change course after one second.
Exactly my point? His movements are unusual so he's difficult to fight for reason not limited to his speed.
It's still ******* mach 1 and insanely faster than someone like Choso, who needs to amp his dynamic visual acuity to see it (granted he can't even do that to mach 1).
If it was a purely speed thing why would she say it's NOT JUST his speed but also his CT? Keep up, dude.
You're downplaying the speed aspect. He's still blitzing everyone.
In the scan Maki turns once she finished counting to 24, saying "24 times right?", and we know this is the case since Naoya slapped her and so any movement from her outside the pre-determined move set would freeze her in place.
She finally figured out how the technique worked, hence she could abide by the 24fps rule too. Nothing crazy aside from that AND also Naoya was still moving at peak speed using projection sorcery
