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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

So you agree the scene shows Cursya as faster than Maki then 😭
Not by that much

Okay, what contradictions exist then? When does Cursya outspeed Kamo without accelerating to the speed of sound or beyond?
When he's not flying and when he tags Kamo with him barely reacting. Also even just by flying Kamo barely reacts from hundreds of meters away

No it hasn't, also Kusakabe, human Naoya, and Naobito still slam so not every grade 1.
You literally put Kamo above Naoya and Naobito...

That doesn't mean he's at his peak, especially since he was a foetus for those 150 years, so idk why you love making up these assumptions and then using them as your basis
Gojo hit his peak at 27. There's no way that Choso gets insanely stronger after 150 years of training.

Other people like Mei Mei also hit their physical peak before 150, and Mei Mei herself has greater potential than a weakling like Kamo

I go off of feats, if a character demonstrates that they can react to another character in a fight, I don't say "oh but this other character trained for a really really really long time and he's not fast", I accept the feats and move on with it. Give me anti-feats to Kamo being subsonic or stop derailing about Kamo.
Him being weaker is the anti feat, and also not wanking like you're doing here

You're not even engaging with the argument anymore. You've basically dropped 90% of your points of contention and your only meaningful attempts at criticism are you having issue with me saying Kamo scales to a certain level - completely unremoved from the Maki discussion. Nice implicit concession ig.
No? Stop saying stuff like this, besides your blatant dishonest wank
 
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When he's not flying and when he tags Kamo with him barely reacting. Also even just by flying Kamo barely reacts from hundreds of meters away
Show, because when he's flying through the air and building speed that's him using projection sorcery to reach upwards of mach 3 speeds, not his base speed.
You literally put Kamo above Naoya and Naobito...
When?
Gojo hit his peak at 27
Nothing suggests Gojo's at his peak, and it's also fine for some characters to have different peaks.
Him being weaker is the anti feat, and also not wanking like you're doing here
show the feat of him being weaker then...
 
Nothing suggests Gojo's at his peak, and it's also fine for some characters to have different peaks.
His statements about people surpassing him imply he's at his own peak

Gojo's like "Oh Yuta and Hakari MIGHT surpass me," not implying "oh they MIGHT become stronger than me rn, but I'll get way stronger later," it's more like surpassing him in general

show the feat of him being weaker then...
The statement suggests it, you have to twist it dishonestly like you did with the sumo shit to say "Omg it's stated she's completely different and way stronger" when it's literally about her f*cking vibes

Show, because when he's flying through the air and building speed that's him using projection sorcery to reach upwards of mach 3 speeds, not his base speed.
He has to stack even further to reach mach 3.

Here in this thread you've claimed this
 
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His statements about people surpassing him imply he's at his own peak
why?
The statement suggests it, you have to twist it dishonestly like you did with the sumo shit to say "Omg it's stated she's completely different and way stronger" when it's literally about her f*cking vibes
Circular disagreement, niceeeeeeeeeeeee. Guac, when you drop a point don't then reference it as the basis for another point without first addressing the evidence you ignored the first time around.
He has to stack even further to reach mach 3.
Not even an engagement with what I said at all.
Here in this thread you've claimed this
I don't remember saying that, but if I did I was wrong. My current position, and the position I've had for weeks, is that Kamo is below Naoya, Naobito, and Kusakabe. There's other grade 1's or lower too ig, like Yuji, Higuruma, Hakari, Choso, Maki, etc.
 
read my edited response

Circular disagreement, niceeeeeeeeeeeee. Guac, when you drop a point don't then reference it as the basis for another point without first addressing the evidence you ignored the first time around.
it's literally not thoguh? you have to lterally stretch and be dishonest to arrive at your reading

Not even an engagement with what I said at all.
please just stop, you're not convincing anyone, and the arguments you're making are embarrassing.

I don't remember saying that, but if I did I was wrong. My current position, and the position I've had for weeks, is that Kamo is below Naoya, Naobito, and Kusakabe. There's other grade 1's or lower too ig, like Yuji, Higuruma, Hakari, Choso, Maki, etc.
You had him above all those people.

Kamo is below every grade 1
 
I had Kamo ABOVE Maki, Hakari, Higuruma, Yuji, etc? Show me ever saying this PLS, it'll be my biggest L.
No, you had him above Naobito, Naoya, and basically every grade 1

FTR, Human Naoya is already close to Toji level. He was strong enough to damage him, first of all, and faster so he really did stand with Toji and Post RCT Gojo. Post RCT Gojo probably loses to Human Naoya
 
then I disagree, this is one of my more recent tier lists


absurd tier list

Bro had teen Geto over Toji. I think I'd make something like this after taking 100 kg of crack or something like that. Ah yes, Yaga the grade 1 below like 3 semi grade 1 students...

Bruh, Higuruma above f*cking Yuki Tsukumo... Even with domain, he would only confiscate her cursed tool Garuda. She'd punch through his max reinforcement.

At least some respect on Suguru Geto, the true owner of the open barrier domain expansion "All eveloping garbadhatu"
 
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absurd tier list

Bro had teen Geto over Toji. I think I'd make something like this after taking 100 kg of crack or something like that.
Toji amped himself with a BV before fighting him and Geto ~ Gojo
Ah yes, Yaga the grade 1 below like 3 semi grade 1 students...
Ganji got blitzed by panda and is featless otherwise, with the grades not being perfect indicators of strength
Bruh, Higuruma above f*cking Yuki Tsukumo... Even with domain, he would only confiscate her cursed tool Garuda. She'd punch through his max reinforcement.
Garuda is a shikigami that simply behaves as a cursed tool, so CT confiscation + her CE reinforcement weakens as a result, she has no feats for surviving a fight after that.
At least some respect on Suguru Geto, the true owner of the open barrier domain expansion "All eveloping garbadhatu"
nah
 
Too much.
either way your comment it insane given we've just had someone arguing for several hours defending the scaling chain: "Curse Naoya >> Human Naoya > RCT Gojo = Toji = Maki ~ 15F Sukuna" after disagreeing peak Sukuna could scale above Naoya's mach 3 speeds, but maybe you agree with Guac idk
 
either way your comment it insane given we've just had someone arguing for several hours defending the scaling chain: "Curse Naoya >> Human Naoya > RCT Gojo = Toji = Maki ~ 15F Sukuna" after disagreeing peak Sukuna could scale above Naoya's mach 3 speeds, but maybe you agree with Guac idk
Wasn’t reading their argument nor do I care. Your list still sucks.
 
name your issues with it then
Because you didn't have Yuta above 15F Sukuna
either way your comment it insane given we've just had someone arguing for several hours defending the scaling chain: "Curse Naoya >> Human Naoya > RCT Gojo = Toji = Maki ~ 15F Sukuna" after disagreeing peak Sukuna could scale above Naoya's mach 3 speeds, but maybe you agree with Guac idk
RCT Gojo violates all the Naoyas together
 
Since we are doing our tierlists again

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Toji was unsure if he could beat Gojo which is why he wore him down


Also I'm of the opinion that Maki got stronger during the timeskip

Im not questioning Toji's position, but how Maki is above Gojo and Toji when we know she's equal to Toji


But alright, I can see now why you're saying Maki is above Toji
But explain how she beats Gojo?
 
RCT Gojo violates all the Naoyas together
CAP. Cursed Spirit Naoya beats Post RCT Gojo fr. Gojo doesn't have the precog, and once he gets hit by that, he's turned into mush.

In fact, here's my hot take:
Cursed Spirit Naoya hits similarly hard to the black flash that didn't even knock out Maki

What the ****.

Muta < Cursya
why THE **** is PPA Maki >>> Naobito????
Kamo <<<< Grade 1
Panda = Grade 1
Juzo = Grade 1
Yaga > Gakuganji
Todo < Mei Mei and Nanami
WHY THE **** is teen Geto there
WHY THE **** is "Pre-RCT Satoru" there
Toji > Maki in a fight
Uro > Geto
Heian Sukuna > the verse
Awakened Satoru < Kenjaku

Also I'm of the opinion that Maki got stronger during the timeskip
She did not. The perfected version of Maki is Toji, so he's the peak of what she can achieve
 
Im not questioning Toji's position, but how Maki is above Gojo and Toji when we know she's equal to Toji


But alright, I can see now why you're saying Maki is above Toji
But explain how she beats Gojo?
She does what Toji did in canon, except she has the stats to do that agaisnt a full power Satoru
I would honestly put miguel higher than yuki and mahoraga if he continued to fight sukuna and give him serious damage (yes i did remove message cuz my blind ass repliet to someone else)
I honestly wasn't completely sure where to put Miguel
 
She does what Toji did in canon, except she has the stats to do that agaisnt a full power Satoru
Wdym toji did in canon? Unless you think of giving her isoh then sure.still strenght wise she is stronger than both
I honestly wasn't completely sure where to put Miguel
Me neither lol but if he gets to fight and damage sukuna again then sure he can get higher btw where are the leaks?
 
The Pre RCT Gojo worship gotta stop, he only bases that off of him being a six eyes user with the limitless jujutsu. Pre-RCT Gojo = Geto <<< Toji ~< Post RCT Gojo

Post RCT Gojo is also a temporary mental amp, which he loses as he only becomes the strongest after the 1 year timeskip
 
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