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Man, that is so unfair, central park being the SBA Arena is giving Giorno a lot of advantage over the others, if he was in a city or something, it would be a tad more fair.


anyways, if Jotaro somehow isnt attacked by Jolyne and Josuke right from the start, could Star Platinum´s super precision punch Giorno without touching his animals?
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
Could not the utilization of Hamon to stimulate one's senses counteract such? Assuming the punches affects are purely neurological in nature anyway...
 
I mean a city's just as bad. He could still turn the tiles of the side walk into things, the litter on the ground, streetlights. I mean Jotaro might be able to land a hit on him,but it's also probable that Giorno uses a tree to get to a higher spot like against Koichi.
 
SwathingDegenera777 said:
Could not the utilization of Hamon to stimulate one's senses counteract such? Assuming the punches affects are purely neurological in nature anyway...
I don't know; Giorno explains that this is the effect of giving even more life to someone who is already alive.
 
But you seem to forget that Joseph could turn the animals genesis'd into creation against their master, and if Giorno tried hiding in a tree then Joseph could use the Hamon to conduct itself THROUGH the tree...
 
Asuka the Demonic Empress said:
Josuke just has to touch the animals to turn them back, it is not required to punch them-

Remember, the animals only kill you back if you kill them in the first place, if you just touch them or heal them the effect is also reflected onto you.
Which means they're going to turn back into animals. Josuke is going to have to repeat this for every life form he punches.

It'll slow him down because he'll have to keep spending time healing himself in the heat of battle and eventually he'll have to find another way around them aside from punching.
 
ArbitraryNumbers said:
Asuka the Demonic Empress said:
Josuke just has to touch the animals to turn them back, it is not required to punch them-

Remember, the animals only kill you back if you kill them in the first place, if you just touch them or heal them the effect is also reflected onto you.
Which means they're going to turn back into animals. Josuke is going to have to repeat this for every life form he punches.
It'll slow him down because he'll have to keep spending time healing himself in the heat of battle and eventually he'll have to find another way around them aside from punching.
Time in which he would be perfectly susceptible to attacks from other's
 
SwathingDegenera777 said:
But you seem to forget that Joseph could turn the animals genesis'd into creation against their master, and if Giorno tried hiding in a tree then Joseph could use the Hamon to conduct itself THROUGH the tree...
This 100%, the only thing that COULD stop Joseph is Gold Experience´s random life giving punch, and it sometimes works, and sometimes it doesnt.

If Joseph found a way to avoid being punched, he would just overwhelm Giorno.
 
Asuka the Demonic Empress said:
SwathingDegenera777 said:
But you seem to forget that Joseph could turn the animals genesis'd into creation against their master, and if Giorno tried hiding in a tree then Joseph could use the Hamon to conduct itself THROUGH the tree...
This 100%, the only thing that COULD stop Joseph is Crazy Diamond´s random life giving punch, and it sometimes works, and sometimes it doesnt.
If Joseph found a way to avoid being punched, he would just overwhelm Giorno.
Wait Crazy Diamond bears a randomized lifegiving punch?
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
No, not really... Crazy Diamond does have a punch that turns you into a book/rock tho.
that was merely the result of restoring and punching the guy and the rock at alternating intervals, inducing a molecular mush between the rock and the guy
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
SwathingDegenera777 said:
that was merely the result of restoring and punching the guy and the rock at alternating intervals, inducing a molecular mush between the rock and the guy
And?
It did not "GIVE LIFE", it merely fused a living being into a nonliving being per punches and restoration at alternating intervals.
 
Well, yeah, but it is somewhat situational.

Anyways, if Josuke teams up with anyone, that team would win by healing hax alone.

And the only two people he kinda knows is Jotaro and Joseph, but since this is a battle royale, he and Jolyne would go for Jotaro first, and would probably not recognize Joseph as his dad because he is way too young.
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
Which would still be useful here.
True, but Josuke's thing was done in a rage, it required multiple intervals of both punches and restorations, and since it took him (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqHDZCxGNCg) 8 seconds excluding the fusing of his hand into a rock that took place at 2:32 within the video.


For reference the hand is fused with the rock at 2:32, the actual punching of Angelo INTO the rock starts at 3:07, and ends at 3:15 in the video.
 
Basically, he just needs to get close enough and go DORARARARA, and then fuse the opponent to the ground, or to a tree, or something like that.
 
Asuka the Demonic Empress said:
i just realized that speed is equalized.
Well who's the fastest JoJo? If it Josuke then our research into the length of his attack rush will be worried for NOT, and will still be viable


wait are we equalizing speed with the slowest JoJo or the FASTEST jojo?
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
Basically, he just needs to get close enough and go DORARARARA, and then fuse the opponent to the ground, or to a tree, or something like that.
But how fast IS a DORARARARA? does it have to be for a certain length of time? a certain speed?
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
SwathingDegenera777 said:
But how fast IS a DORARARARA? does it have to be for a certain length of time? a certain speed?
At least as fast as any of the other attack rushes.
And how fast are the other's? once we figure that out we can calc Giorno's item-to-animal conversion speed and see if Josuke's living-inanimate fusion thing would outpace Giorno's production, just because speed is equalized doesn't mean that all techniques take the same amount of time to pull off...
 
You're still talking about Giorno's animals? I'm talking about Josuke using it on Jotaro, since everyone's saying he would go for him first, and Joseph, since people were saying Giorno was the only one that could beat him.
 
Asuka the Demonic Empress said:
Crazy Diamond is slightly faster than Star Platinum, if we were to judge the first fight of Part 4 as a valid enough comparison.
So assuming we equalize everyone's speed with Josuke's, then everyone's rush is as fast as his, meaning that the data obtained for his fusion-of-living-and-notliving-things-technique is still valid...
 
Yeah, since they both know what their Jotaro can do, and would expect him to use time stop, so Jotaro would be of the first taken out. Unless some plot happens and they feel DIO in Giorno or something, which would cause Jonathan and Jotaro to go after him, and would overwhelm him with hamon and SP´s precision.
 
I really need to go read Stone Ocean. Well, if there's nothing she can do to get rid of the opponents, then she gets taken out next? If that's the case, then that would leave Joseph, Josuke, Giorno and Johnny.
 
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