John Cena vs Captain America (WWE vs Marvel Comics)

[Pikaman]

If he can tire out Cena it's in the realm of possibility for him to get Cena in a hold considering he has a higher LS.

I mean, Cap draining Superhuman stamina before Cena gets ONE clean hit in and swings it heavy in his favour seems unlikely

 

[DivineAura44]

I mean, Cap draining Superhuman stamina before Cena gets ONE clean hit in and swings it heavy in his favour seems unlikely

Captain America has overcome the unlikely before. His skill with that shield is second to none.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Captain America has overcome the unlikely before. His skill with that shield is second to none.

You're telling me Cap has a better chance of tiring out Cena before Cena gets one clean hit in?

 

[DivineAura44]

You're telling me Cap has a better chance of tiring out Cena before Cena gets one clean hit in?

Playing defensive is usually the easier route. Especially when you have a massive shield in which you have skill far beyond any weapon mastery in WWE.

 

[Pikaman]

Captain America has overcome the unlikely before.

Ok, cool, not really relevant here. Him succeeding when the odds of him doing so were low is irrelevant if he doesn’t have supernatural luck. Ain’t no plot armour here

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Playing defensive is usually the easier route. Especially when you have a massive shield in which you have skill far beyond any weapon mastery in WWE.

But to say Cena won't get one hit in is basically implying that this match is a stomp.

 

[Pikaman]

I’ll wait for some other Marvel Supporters to see about how Cena deals with the shield, but if he can, I believe we can all agree on Cena winning Man to Man correct?

 

[DivineAura44]

Ok, cool, not really relevant here. Him succeeding when the odds of him doing so were low is irrelevant if he doesn’t have supernatural luck. Ain’t no plot armour here

That's obviously not my argument...

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I’ll wait for some other Marvel Supporters to see about how Cena deals with the shield, but if he can, I believe we can all agree on Cena winning Man to Man correct?

Cena is 100% winning Man to Man in a fight where no weapons were allowed.

 

[DivineAura44]

But to say Cena won't get one hit in is basically implying that this match is a stomp.

He still has it as an available wincon. That doesn't make it a stomp.

 

[Pikaman]

But to say Cena won't get one hit in is basically implying that this match is a stomp.

Well, technically one hit doesn’t totally win it for Cena, it just turns him from an underdog to an overwhelming favourite, if Cap can regain the shield from his vulnerable position then they’re back to square one

 

[Pikaman]

That's obviously not my argument...

Then what was the point of pointing out him defying odds when that’s completely irrelevant?

 

[DivineAura44]

I’ll wait for some other Marvel Supporters to see about how Cena deals with the shield, but if he can, I believe we can all agree on Cena winning Man to Man correct?

His skill in H2H is far more than Cap's, he would have no chance face to face against the Doctor of Thuganomics.

 

[DivineAura44]

Then what was the point of pointing out him defying odds when that’s completely irrelevant?

Obviously the second part of the post.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Well, technically one hit doesn’t totally win it for Cena,

Obviously. One hit isn't going to win it for Cena, but when he does get that hit in, it's going to drastically change the tide of the matchup in Cena's favor.

 

[DivineAura44]

The way I make it seem is kinda difficult to understand to be fair. CA doesn't skill stomp. His ability to dodge or block stomps John's ability to catch his opponent.

 

[Pikaman]

The way I make it seem is kinda difficult to understand to be fair. CA doesn't skill stomp. His ability to dodge or block stomps John's ability to catch his opponent.

So... Cena is incapable of landing a clean hit on Cap, and gets stomped?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

The way I make it seem is kinda difficult to understand to be fair. CA doesn't skill stomp. His ability to dodge or block stomps John's ability to catch his opponent.

CA's shield is going to be saving his ass the entire fight. If he didn't have his shield, Cena would wipe the floor with him.

Even then, all Cena needs is one clean hit and he can end the fight right then and there.

 

[DivineAura44]

CA's shield is going to be saving his ass the entire fight. If he didn't have his shield, Cena would wipe the floor with him.

Even then, all Cena needs is one clean hit and he can end the fight right then and there.

With his shield.

 

[DivineAura44]

So... Cena is incapable of landing a clean hit on Cap, and gets stomped?

I never said he was incapable. I just said I find CA's win condition of constantly dodging more likely.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Divine do you think this is a stomp or nah?

 

[DivineAura44]

CA's shield is going to be saving his ass the entire fight. If he didn't have his shield, Cena would wipe the floor with him.

Even then, all Cena needs is one clean hit and he can end the fight right then and there.

No one has denied this.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I never said he was incapable. I just said I find CA's win condition of constantly dodging more likely.

Constantly dodging someone who's significantly more skilled than you isn't going to cut it.

 

[DivineAura44]

Divine do you think this is a stomp or nah?

If John Cena has a win con (he does), it's not a stomp.

 

[DivineAura44]

Constantly dodging someone who's significantly more skilled than you isn't going to cut it.

His ability of skill doesn't apply to everything, you do know that right?

 

[Pikaman]

So Cap’s win condition is to tire out someone with Superhuman stamina, allowing him to quite literally beat him at his own game despite an extreme experience disadvantage, or beat to death someone who is 3x stronger than him, all before he takes a clean hit, which massively sets him back into a severe disadvantage? I can understand how good Cap is with that shield, but I doubt he is good enough to achieve those tricky win-cons before Cena achieves his

 

[Pikaman]

If John Cena has a win con (he does), it's not a stomp.

Well if his win-con involves getting past the shield (it does) and you are arguing that it is impossible for Cena to do so, then you’re arguing for a stomp

 

[RandomGuy2345]

His ability of skill doesn't apply to everything, you do know that right?

Cap doesn't have Analytical Prediction, Instinctive Reactions, Precognition, or any other prediction-like abilities (correct me if I'm wrong).

How is he just going to keep on dodging Cena?

This is why I use Jericho and Theory the most out of everyone else.

 

[DivineAura44]

So Cap’s win condition is to tire out someone with Superhuman stamina, allowing him to quite literally beat him at his own game despite an extreme experience disadvantage, or beat to death someone who is 3x stronger than him, all before he takes a clean hit, which massively sets him back into a severe disadvantage? I can understand how good Cap is with that shield, but I doubt he is good enough to achieve those tricky win-cons before Cena achieves his

This is an over exaggeration. The way you are wording it is obviously gonna favor Cena smh.

 

[DivineAura44]

Well if his win-con involves getting past the shield (it does) and you are arguing that it is impossible for Cena to do so, then you’re arguing for a stomp

I never said it was impossible. I'm arguing it's less likely.

 

[DivineAura44]

Cap doesn't have Analytical Prediction, Instinctive Reactions, Precognition, or any other prediction-like abilities (correct me if I'm wrong).

How is he just going to keep on dodging Cena?

This is why I use Jericho and Theory the most out of everyone else.

It's called using the shield which is your entire brand.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Cena has fought and defeated people who are faster than him anyway, so this argument that Cap just dodges until Cena tires out doesn't make sense.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

It's called using the shield which is your entire brand.

If Cap has a shield, then he's going to block the attacks, not dodge it.

 

[Pikaman]

This is an over exaggeration.

It really isn’t. Cap is severely screwed if he loses his shield, which he will if he takes a clean hit from Cena, and successfully grappling Cena is gonna be so hard it’s not even funny, his best bet is to tire Cena, which will take more time than he has before he loses the shield in all likelihood

Cap has to jump through a lot of hoops, Cena just has to squeeze his way through one really narrow one. I’m far from concluding/voting here but I fancy Cena’s chances more as it stands

 

[Pikaman]

I never said it was impossible. I'm arguing it's less likely.

Ah gotcha, sorry about that

 

[DivineAura44]

Cena has fought and defeated people who are faster than him anyway, so this argument that Cap just dodges until Cena tires out doesn't make sense.

I'm not arguing for speed. Dodging takes agility and skill as well.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I'm not arguing for speed. Dodging takes agility and skill as well.

Cena has fought and defeated people who're more agile than him. This is nothing new.

 

[DivineAura44]

It really isn’t. Cap is severely screwed if he loses his shield, which he will if he takes a clean hit from Cena, and successfully grappling Cena is gonna be so hard it’s not even funny, his best bet is to tire Cena, which will take more time than he has before he loses the shield in all likelihood

Well that's what I'm arguing.

 

[DivineAura44]

Cena has fought and defeated people who're more agile than him. This is nothing new.

Well I'd argue no one so far has had the skill (or skill with a shield.)

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Well I'd argue no one so far has had the skill (or skill with a shield.)

How is Cap's shield helping him dodge attacks? Dodging attacks requires the person to move their body out of harm's way. The shield just helps Cap block attacks.

Rey Mysterio isn't as skilled as Captain America?