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okay, okay good but i think Cap is more skilled than her

can you write the skill of Cap?

if its not a problem
Going into detail would take a while. Though what I can say is that keeping up with Winter Soldier, Loki, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Ultron, Corvus Glaive, etc. is probably more impressive. But, you know... that's just me
 
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yeah Cap is definetly more skilled and experienced than Marvel at this point

well i vote Cap then,

he has the experience, skill, and his shield can block all of Marvel attacks, and even if Marvel try to take away his shield, Cap is still skilled enough to best her H2H,

and take his shield back
 
If the battle is limited to h2h then It will be Steve but if it's an all out fight which includes flight, energy projection etc then Carol will win.
 
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ehm even if she could use it, how would that be useful?
she coul just make him say the truth, wich honestly doesn't change anything
No its not a lasso of truth thing its about picking objects with her mind if she could use it to take Cap's shield she could have a shot since she would be taking his shield while keeping her distance
 
I feel a bit weird voting on this since we need to get some GoTG explosion feats calc'd which significantly affect Carol's Tier 8 key

But for how the profiles are currently, I'd vote Steve FRA. Marvel's LS advantage would come in handy, though I feel like Cap is more likely to avoid grapples from her
 
yeah she never demonstrated that, and like the name imply, it would be only for telling the truth
She showed that power although it was when she was full powered. Her energy could somehow grab 2 of the starfoce's members and control them to a certain extent and no it wasnt simple an energy blast she throws them in a direction that contradicts a simpple energy blast
 
But technically the supression Carol had was about the amount of energy she could use not the way she uses, she couldnt fly before because she didnt have enough energy to use to fly
 
Anyways i dont think captain america should be able to actually hurt captain marvel despite being supressed she never got any significant damage and both her AP and resistance have the higher stat while Captain America does not so that should mean her resistance and AP are considerable higher than Captain America
 
Anyways i dont think captain america should be able to actually hurt captain marvel despite being supressed she never got any significant damage and both her AP and resistance have the higher stat while Captain America does not so that should mean her resistance and AP are considerable higher than Captain America
She does have the AP and durability advantage, but it's not to the point that Steve can't harm her. They're the same tier of 8-C and scale to the same value

Plus, Cap has a 6-B durability Vibranium shield and a strong skill advantage
 
She does have the AP and durability advantage, but it's not to the point that Steve can't harm her. They're the same tier of 8-C and scale to the same value

Plus, Cap has a 6-B durability Vibranium shield and a strong skill advantage
Actually i would argue that it could be they are the same tier sure but the "likely higher" remotes to probably an higher tier
Furthermore, higher may also be used to denote a case where the character is possibly or likely a higher tier, but to what degree is not specified. This is specifically referring to cases such as “At least 4-B, likely higher” or “At least Solar System level, likely higher”.
after all its pretty hard to calc Survived atmospheric re-entry and falling through the roof of Blockbuster, and she wasnt even hurt by that,
Despite having the same tier she was never actually hurt the whole time we cant put her in a higher tier because there are no calcs but just the fact that she wasnt hurt by attacks that have the same tier that can cause significant damage to captain america implies a good difference.
The shield wouldnt make a difference captain america would be punching a rock.
 
after all its pretty hard to calc Survived atmospheric re-entry and falling through the roof of Blockbuster, and she wasnt even hurt by that
A Building level character being unharmed by a Wall level fall isn't unexpected
she was never actually hurt the whole time
she wasnt hurt by attacks
Read her profile:
Comparable to Korath. Bent a metal pole by banging a Skrull's head into it. Can bend metal bars. Her photon blasts can easily blast holes through concrete. Knocked out a Skrull who drew blood from her
It doesn't matter whether most things don't cause her that much harm. With how their profiles are right now, they are the same tier. They scale to the same value, just one unquantifiably higher than the other

This isn't Cap fighting someone with a massive AP and durability advantage like Loki (where his attacks were really completely useless). This is Cap fighting someone of a higher but still comparable caliber
 
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A Building level character being unharmed by a Wall level fall isn't unexpected
How the hell is falling while burning for the re entry fire ccaused by the speed and fall on the floor after breaking the ceiling a normal wall level? Did you even read her profile?
Durability: At least Building level, likely higher (Survived a Skrull pod exploding. Survived atmospheric re-entry and falling through the roof of Blockbuster. Withstood being beaten several times by metals that Yon-Rogg controlled telekinetically with his Magnitron Gauntlets)
Captain America was hurt from falling off a building she is falling like 20km and just walking away as if nothing happened
Read her profile:

It doesn't matter whether most things don't cause her that much harm. With how their profiles are right now, they are the same tier. They scale to the same value, just one unquantifiably higher than the other
They dont scale to the same value because none of them even has any calc that is bulding level Captain america has 2 calcs both are small building, Captain Marvel doesnt have calc she apparently scales to a 14 kg tnt calc from Korath weapons which is higher than the 13 kg tnt of captain america destroying a pillar.
This isn't Cap fighting someone with a massive AP and durability advantage like Loki (where his attacks were really completely useless). This is Cap fighting someone of a higher but still comparable caliber
Cap is fighting someone that wasnt harmed by any of the attacks that can cause considerable damage to captain america the higher stat is caused by that because she walked off all the damage, this is something it counts
 
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How the hell is falling while burning for the re entry fire ccaused by the speed and fall on the floor after breaking the ceiling a normal wall level?
Because the calc says so. Breaking through a ceiling is Wall level and, as per this calc, even falling from as high as low orbit is Wall level

EDIT: Rewatching the scene, she doesn't even fall from low orbit. She was only at cloud height when she fell out of the pod
Did you even read her profile?
Many times, yes
none of them even has any calc that is bulding level
Then what's this?
And this?
 
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EDIT: Rewatching the scene, she doesn't even fall from low orbit. She was only at cloud height when she fell out of the pod
Which is not a valid argument because she doesnt start at rest she was already going down much faster because of the speed of the pod speed enough to melt alien metal. She was falling faster than the pod.
Many times, yes
Then you know the lack of calcs there are even worse about supressed version. Where are the calcs on her photon blasts? Not even her full version has any calc about her photon blasts.
I was talking about Attack potency because thats what he is gonna hit Captain marvel with.
 
Which is not a valid argument because she doesnt start at rest she was already going down much faster because of the speed of the pod speed enough to melt alien metal. She was falling faster than the pod.
Whatever the case is, the feat still isn't Building level. The most you're getting is Wall level, whether it be from her falling from the extreme height or her crashing through the roof of a building and into its floor
Not even her full version has any calc about her photon blasts.
Because that key powerscales to Thanos who powerscales to Thor, so calcs for her photon blasts would be redundant
I was talking about Attack potency because thats what he is gonna hit Captain marvel with
His attack potency scales to his durability because he can fight characters who can harm him and also harm characters of comparable durability, like Spider-Man (who tanked the 8-C Pumpkin bomb btw), Red Skull, Iron Man, Winter Soldier, etc.
 
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His attack potency scales to his durability because he can fight characters who can harm him and also harm characters of comparable durability, like Spider-Man (who tanked the 8-C Pumpkin bomb btw), Red Skull, Iron Man, Winter Soldier, etc.
And that Pumpkin Bomb is only a supporting feat. Two different Spider-Men were still fighting after tanking it point blank in injured states
 
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