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Jiren Vs Superman

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Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
Completely meaningless, considering being Stronger than IZ =/= being able to fully erase him after merging with time and space.
He's now dealing with an IZ who has a plethora of hax.
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Azzy my man, with all due respect, even if Supes merged with the time and space of a (i.e just one) universe, Jiren can still kill him by nuking the universe he is a part of. If that space-time continuum is destroyed, Superman will cease to exist. I mean, that's how Zeno killed IZ. And yes, even though Zeno is 2-C, this is still applicable here since Jiren can nuke the universe and the main difference between Jiren and Zeno in this case is the number of universes they can nuke at a time.
 
Kaltias said:
Jiren can't bust timelines tho
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Well then why is he Low 2-C? (Not trying to be rude or sarcastic. Just asking a question) Since it is explicitly stated on this site's tiering system that a Low 2-C can bust an entire timeline.

Verbatim quote from the tiering system of this site

  • Universe level+: ("Low 2-C") This is for characters who can destroy and/or create the entire 4-dimensional space-time of one universe, not just the physical matter within one. For example, an entire timeline.
Again, not trying to be sarcastic or anything, but explain why a Low 2-C can't bust a timeline when his tier is defined to do so. He hasn't explicitly shown it yet, but by virtue of being a Low 2-C/Having Low 2-C AP, he can bust the timeline.
 
Because Low 2-C is the AP for destroying a timeline.

Jiren isn't Low 2-C because he can destroy a timeline, he is Low 2-C because he can harm people who have Low 2-C durability.

It's the same principle as "A 5-B character doesn't necessarily pulverize Earth whenever he/she/it throws a punch".

That's why he has 3-A range basically.

We don't assume that the AP of a character automatically scales to their range.

Destroying a timeline entails Low 2-C range. Punching another Low 2-C through the floor doesn't.
 
lol at Freezing Jiren to Death even base Vegeta has absolute Zero resistances. Superman's hax are nothing compared to what Jiren can tank and he is physically stronger and has more Destructive Capacity and skills.
 
Then this is a mismatch. Jiren is haxless, Supes has hax and is a freaking universe that Jiren has not shown he can bust....apparently....Jiren can do nothing, he ain't Zeno.
 
-BANLK- said:
No one in this thread has even mentioned as to how Jiren will defeat Supes. Being stronger does not mean that he can defeat him.
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Why do you thing his hax can work on Jiren? If anything Jiren has proven if you have enough power then hax wouldn't work on him. Even MUI didn't work wel.
 
Dragonmasterxyz said:
Then this is a mismatch. Jiren is haxless, Supes has hax and is a freaking universe that Jiren has not shown he can bust....apparently....Jiren can do nothing, he ain't Zeno.
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>Haxless

>1-A stare.

smh.
 
when did superman mindhax anyone above human level, even if you say jiren cant defeat him because timelines, i dont see superman defeat him by power and im not too sure about his hax being on that level, wich would make this inconcluisive at best.
 
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