Itachi Ichiha vs Lucius Zogratis

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Itachi Uchiha

Itachi Uchiha was a prodigy of Konohagakure's Uchiha clan. He became an international criminal after murdering his entire clan, sparing only his younger brother, Sasuke. He then joined the international criminal organization Akatsuki, whose activity brought him into frequent conflict with Konoha...

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Lucius Zogratis

Lucius Zogratis is the hidden 4th and eldest sibling of the Zogratis family and the devil host of the supreme devil Astaroth, wielder of Time Magic. He is the current and main antagonist of the final act of Black Clover, acting as the final bastion for Asta and Yuno to reach the rank of Wizard...

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Speed Equal
both 10m

Itachi: @karo_senpaii

Lucius:

Incon: @Robo432343 @Joshyyy_64 @Shadowbokunohero

 

[SuperStar]

Why do you keep making these matches?

 

[Robo432343]

Why do you keep making these matches?

??
this is a good match

 

[Joshyyy_64]

What he said ^

Why do you keep making these matches?

 

[Joshyyy_64]

High 6-A keys?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

High 6-A keys?

Itachi has no 6-A key. He gets utterly shredded by a single punch.

 

[Robo432343]

i think this match is incon because Itachi starts with genjutsu

 

[Joshyyy_64]

i think this match is incon because Itachi starts with genjutsu

dude, did u make the match up just cause you wanted to see who attacks first Genjutsu or time stop?

 

[Robo432343]

dude, did u make the match up just cause you wanted to see who attacks first Genjutsu or time stop?

no

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Then it’s a mismatch.

Lucius starts with Timestop

 

[Joshyyy_64]

Then it’s a mismatch.

Lucius starts with Timestop

this match is basically "who thinks faster"

 

[Joshyyy_64]

i'm voting incon or mismatch or whatever it is

 

[Epsilon_R]

Yeah, this is a bad one.

It's basically a "who starts first" type of thing, which already makes the battle less interesting, but the fact that Lucius resists Mind Manipulation and Itachi's doesn't seem to be layered or anything means Lucius will more than likely be the winner here

Even if somehow Itachi has layered mind hax, it would be negated the moment Lucius uses Timestop, because his timestop is also a powernull

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

i think this match is incon because Itachi starts with genjutsu

Lucius time stops from 4KM and wins, Itachi can't see his eyes first

Also the fact that Lucius can literally just flex his gravity aura at the beginning and force Itachi to not even look at him+ precog to know that Itachi has x instantwin, so good bye, is just his counter

 

[Robo432343]

It's basically a "who starts first" type of thing, which already makes the battle less interesting, but the fact that Lucius resists Mind Manipulation and Itachi's doesn't seem to be layered or anything means Lucius will more than likely be the winner here

genjutsu has 7 layers

Naruto: Genjutsu Potency

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Even if somehow Itachi has layered mind hax, it would be negated the moment Lucius uses Timestop, because his timestop is also a powernull

But if Itachi uses the genjutsu before Lucius activates time hax then he just wins??
i thought we all agree the wincons happen at the same time
hence incon

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

genjutsu has 7 layers

Naruto: Genjutsu Potency

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But if Itachi uses the genjutsu before Lucius activates time hax then he just wins??
i thought we all agree the wincons happen at the same time
hence incon

The moment Itachi is stopped in time, his abilities are powernulled too, so no more gentjutsu+ I don't think he can land it

 

[Vlova]

Itachi has no resistance to time manip, I believe he can easily win by going back in time or stopping time.

 

[Robo432343]

The moment Itachi is stopped in time, his abilities are powernulled too, so no more gentjutsu+ I don't think he can land it

The moment Itachi is stopped in time, Lucius would also trapped in genjutsu and he would have to null 7 layers

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

The moment Itachi is stopped in time, Lucius would also trapped in genjutsu and he would have to null 7 layers

Layers does not give resistance to powernull, it makes YOUR resistance moot

 

[Vlova]

The moment Itachi is stopped in time, Lucius would also trapped in genjutsu and he would have to null 7 layers

Before doing this, Lucius can rewind time

 

[Vlova]

The moment Itachi is stopped in time, Lucius would also trapped in genjutsu and he would have to null 7 layers

And after Itachi stops in time, he won't do anything because everything will stop at that moment.

 

[Robo432343]

Before doing this, Lucius can rewind time

but there is no 'before'
Lucius would already be in genjutsu while time is stopped for itachi

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

Lucius Zogratis one shots still​

 

[Vlova]

but there is no 'before'
Lucius would already be in genjutsu while time is stopped for itachi

Lucius can solve this problem by turning back time. Additionally, time stopping means Itachi is frozen and can never move.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

but there is no 'before'
Lucius would already be in genjutsu while time is stopped for itachi

First: At 4 KM I don't see Itachi pulling a gentjutsu
Second: The moment the fight starts, Itachi is dead in the ground or pinned at least via gravity aura
Third: When time is stopped by him, he is powernulled and he has no resistance to that, layers does not give defense to powernull, you need resistance
Fourth: Lucius can change to Julius and then revert himself as is a soul change? Probably? Even then, 2 possibilities of him just winning without dealing with genjutsu and then, just power nulling that, stomp

 

[Vlova]

First: At 4 KM I don't see Itachi pulling a gentjutsu
Second: The moment the fight starts, Itachi is dead in the ground or pinned at least via gravity aura
Third: When time is stopped by him, he is powernulled and he has no resistance to that, layers does not give defense to powernull, you need resistance
Fourth: Lucius can change to Julius and then revert himself as is a soul change? Probably? Even then, 2 possibilities of him just winning without dealing with genjutsu and then, just power nulling that, stomp

agree

 

[Robo432343]

First: At 4 KM I don't see Itachi pulling a gentjutsu

oh shit
changed so it might be fair for both

 

[Robo432343]

Lucius can solve this problem by turning back time. Additionally, time stopping means Itachi is frozen and can never move.

he cant turn back in time before itachi genjutsus him because itachi just needs to see Lucius for the genjutsu to work
thats why i vote incon

 

[Vlova]

he cant turn back in time before itachi genjutsus him because itachi just needs to see Lucius for the genjutsu to work
thats why i vote incon

He will not be able to see her because he will go back in time or time has stopped.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

The moment Itachi is stopped in time, Lucius would also trapped in genjutsu and he would have to null 7 layers

Itachi doesn't have 7 layers. Only Sasuke has that.

 

[Joshyyy_64]

Do Enrico Pucci vs Lucius Zogratis, that's more interesting pls

 

[Robo432343]

Itachi doesn't have 7 layers. Only Sasuke has that.

what no??
where did you get that from

 

[Robo432343]

He will not be able to see her because he will go back in time or time has stopped.

By the time Lucius has gone back in time genjutsu would have already happened before
we don't know whose going to activate which hax first

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

what no??
where did you get that from

1 tomoe < 2 tomoe < 3 tomoe < MS < Tsukuyomi < Kotoamatsukami < Infinite Tsukuyomi < Adult Sasuke Genjutsu. Itachi only has 4 layers

 

[Robo432343]

1 tomoe < 2 tomoe < 3 tomoe < MS < Tsukuyomi < Kotoamatsukami < Infinite Tsukuyomi < Adult Sasuke Genjutsu. Itachi only has 4 layers

itachi has 4 layers
lucius has 1-2 layers of resistance i think

 

[Vlova]

By the time Lucius has gone back in time genjutsu would have already happened before
we don't know whose going to activate which hax first

will go to the past where genjutsu did not occur

 

[Robo432343]

will go to the past where genjutsu did not occur

he cant go back to the past where genjutsu did not occur because genjutsu does not allow you to do that..

 

[Vlova]

he cant go back to the past where genjutsu did not occur because genjutsu does not allow you to do that..

no he has to look into her eyes for genjutsu 2

 

[Robo432343]

no he has to look into her eyes for genjutsu 2

yes i know
Itachi looks into his eyes and Lucius is under genjutsu but time is stopped
so no one wins

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

The moment Itachi is stopped in time, his abilities are powernulled too, so no more gentjutsu+ I don't think he can land it

Genjutsu can persist even after the person has been defeated, which is why often times they have to break out every individual individually as oppose to just beating the caster.