Is the MCU faster than or equal to light?

[Kulf_Boba]

Does this apply to the speed ratings of the MCU?

• Electro was said to dematerialize and travel as electromagnetic particles. ()
• Electro can perceive the movement of electricity being conducted at light speed. ()
• In addition to being able to dematerialize into electromagnetic particles.
• Captain Marvel firing in a nanosecond a photon beam that reached the height of the clouds.
  That happened in a prequel novel to her solo movie. ()

 

[Kulf_Boba]

Bump

 

[StekFence]

I’m pretty sure electricity doesn’t travel at the speed of light

 

[Planck69]

Electricity doesn't travel at light speed. You're confusing a stream of electrons with electromagnetic radiation. Can't comment on the Captain Marvel feat.

 

[KLOL506]

Electricity does move at 90% the speed of light IRL in conductive-enough metals (In fact, we're talking about it in this CRT right now to add that fact in).

Unfortunately however, this would not scale to Electro's normal combat capabilities, only when travelling through wires. But aye, this was supposed to be added to his profile in a future CRT.

 

[KLOL506]

I’m pretty sure electricity doesn’t travel at the speed of light

Not on its own, no. But through conductive-enough materials? 90% SoL.

 

[RoTt35]

There is already a calc of the Captain Marvel feat

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

There's also another FTL - MFTL+ Captain Marvel calc that I made

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I've also seen arguments online that repulsors are lightspeed, but I'm not sure whether they fit enough criteria

 

[Kulf_Boba]

I've also seen arguments online that repulsors are lightspeed, but I'm not sure whether they fit enough criteria

Has anyone started a thread talking about MCU "FTL" stuff?

 

[NHTkenshin2]

Has anyone started a thread talking about MCU "FTL" stuff?

I attempted creating a huge FTL mcu sandbox but just gave up

All that i can say is that there is definitely a LOT of SOL - FTL mcu stuff

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I attempted creating a huge FTL mcu sandbox but just gave up

All that i can say is that there is definitely a LOT of SOL - FTL mcu stuff

SOL - FTL MCU is based

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Found this video

 

[Kulf_Boba]

Found this video

I've seen it already, lots of questionable stuff in that video.

The only thing that seems feasible to me is MFTL+ for those who scale directly from Carol.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

The only thing that seems feasible to me is MFTL+ for those who scale directly from Carol.

If SoL repulsors gets accepted, that might get some Sub-Rel or higher stuff

 

[Kulf_Boba]

From what I have seen, they are not photon beams but supercharged muon particles, I guess it is a different standard, so it has to be shown to behave as that particle would in the IRL

 

[KLOL506]

If SoL repulsors gets accepted, that might get some Sub-Rel or higher stuff

Still not too sure on the Repulsors being actually SoL, they'd require more evidence.

 

[chosen]

If SoL repulsors gets accepted, that might get some Sub-Rel or higher stuff

I think Thanos reacting to them once was rel-rel+ if wd Say is sol

 

[NHTkenshin2]

I think Thanos reacting to them once was rel-rel+ if wd Say is sol

Thanos also reacted to cap marvels photons
Which honestly just should be SOL

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

There's also another FTL - MFTL+ Captain Marvel calc that I made

Calc has new ends

 

[NHTkenshin2]

Calc has new ends

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[NHTkenshin2]

Calc has new ends

If this does get accepted then captain marvels marvels photons become 100% SOL

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Well, it's not FTL, but Relativistic+ is still cool

 

[NHTkenshin2]

You know me i am the biggest FTL mcu enjoyer

 

[NHTkenshin2]

The only notable moot point (that I know of) about the post is comparing it to Captain Marvel's photon blast, since this wiki doesn't accept them as Speed of Light.

I still dont understand what's the point in rejecting them at this point, it falls under the “if the verse is already close to light speed the requirements shouldn't be that strict” rule

 

[Newendigo]

This is a topic that has been orbiting for a while, I kinda didn't want to address it cus I didn't feel it gather enough track, but seems peeps are just too passionate about this, so here are my words.

Repulsors can't be considered light speed as we know that they are the primary method for IMs flight anyway thanks to their propulsion. I know people going to say "but light can actually produce force!" That is wrong in the vast majority of instances.

Even high output lasers cant show force because while we know photons do carry certain amount of momentum, is such a negligible amount that it makes no difference. Meanwhile even low powered repulsors that only ko can still punch several feet away a man which is nonsense if it was actually light.

No to mention, we see see repulsors like bolts of energy when single burst, not straight beams. We also see they are ridiculously slow at times and are quite inconsistent when it comes to their heat (which is important as the method that light deals "damage") sometimes not being hot at all full power.

Now, on to electro's stuff the second gift can actually be easily be explained as him just being able to sense electricity, rather than his reactions being fast enough to react to it.

Is worth mentioning that the speed of electricity shouldn't be compared the same way we do conventional displacing objects like cars of bullets. I can go and explain into detail but that deserves it's own post.

So, no, I don't agree with most of this as a verse knowledgeable and semi Da Science lad.

 

[KLOL506]

Pretty sure that physical force is no longer a major disqualifier here, but whatever

I would still not consider repulsors to be light speed in any sense of the word.

They don't consist purely of photons, can be compared to regular energy blasts, half the time they do not travel in straight lines but rather in blazing jet arcs, and they do not not either diffuse through materials or refract/reflect.

 

[Newendigo]

Read my post again marvel, physical force is important when it comes to the logical strength of an yet-to-be-proven laser/light attack. A Low powered blast should not by any means be able to generate that much force if its supposedly light. You need copious amounts of energy to scale up the little momentum photons to make a effect.

The wiki not taking into account this is just another thing, tho...

 

[KLOL506]

Also Electro would only be 90% speed of light by travelling through wires (Since electricity IRL can travel that fast through good conductors like high-quality copper wire), he wouldn't have this be part of his normal speed stats in any sense of the word, much like RHCP.

 

[NHTkenshin2]

I think our current best shot at getting FTL MCU is with captain marvels photons, if captain marvel is already very close to Rel+ i think there is no reason to say her photons are below SOL

And of course The nanosecond feat
Which would be consistent with this

1389560378474.11444m / 30s = 4.631867928e+10 m/s or 154.50248344807c (Massively FTL)

 

[NHTkenshin2]

There is also Ultrons repulsors
Which has a statement of being red beams of light, Move relative to QS who can reach SOL and resemble iron mans wrist lasers

Repulsors as a whole are SOL

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

I think our current best shot at getting FTL MCU is with captain marvels photons, if captain marvel is already very close to Rel+ i think there is no reason to say her photons are below SOL

Pretty sure the main reason why SoL photon blasts can't get accepted is because they don't meet enough criteria, not that the verse wasn't close enough to SoL

And of course The nanosecond feat

Massively FTL, which is far beyond everything except for Captain Marvel's MFTL+ flight speed in space, the Bifrost and this Mjolnir calc

Thanos did outpace Captain Marvel's flight speed when she was flying at top speed, so...

Which would be consistent with this

This one? Only DMUA's suggestion was accepted. But if someone can accept the FTL value instead, that'll be great

There is also Ultrons repulsors
Which has a statement of being red beams of light

Right, this one
Just need to confirm the source

Repulsors as a whole are SOL

Think it was already debunked above unfortunately