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The whole kenpachi thing was mostly physical as in "if you are not as strong/stronger you cant cut me using your sword"Kidkinsey said:tbhhh idk have we seen proof besdies that one comment by aizen? because ks worked on ywach and tousens darkness worked on kenpachi
even the kenpachi if im stronger you take all the damage things is weird because im 90% sure there have been sneak attacks or atleast attempts in bleach
More like Aizen used KS AFTER tanking her attack since the panel used was after he raised his sword to cut SoiFon and he got stab from behind by Kyoraku.Kidkinsey said:so you saying aizen lied to her?
Aizen backs up Kenpachi's description of how reaitsu works in the verse, so yeah is legit.Kidkinsey said:so then his statement about AP negating hax cant be trusted?
Simple. Is not passive. It's only passive AFTER reiatsu is activated. That's the point of the anime using "effects" when Reiatsu is activated.Kidkinsey said:ok now what did tousens hax work on kenpachi and aizens on ywach, as well as gins poison on aize
Hax is not negated by AP.MetalGearRaiden said:if AP could stop Hax,SK Yhwach wouldn't be able to "lol nope" ichigo's Merged Hollow True Bankai
ichigo at that point was easily 15-30+ times stronger in AP, yet he got owned by Hax
Is settle but you add to the conversation.SupremeGilgamesh said:Can i asnwer the question for this?
What does the even mean?SupremeGilgamesh said:Only Aizen knows how to do this and it was a internal attack
The rest only knows how to do simple guard
you say aizen backs up kenpachis statement so its legit, but then you also say higher ap dosent negate hax im confused lolAppleLord said:Aizen backs up Kenpachi's description of how reaitsu works in the verse, so yeah is legit.Kidkinsey said:so then his statement about AP negating hax cant be trusted?
Here are the scenes I am talking about.
Aizen gives his speech. - Chapter 391
Here Ichigo tells Aizen when he "felt" Aizen activating KS in FKT arc and Kubo show us the panel when Aizen is raising his sword to cut down Soifon during his speech. Chapter 684
Most likely he activated KS when he unsheathed his blade.
AP means "Attack Potency" which doesn't negate hax. Reiatsu is linked to durability and Soul King Yhwach was cutting down Ichigo left and right. Ichigo's durability isn't the same as his Attack Potency.Kidkinsey said:you say aizen backs up kenpachis statement so its legit, but then you also say higher ap dosent negate hax im confused lolAppleLord said:Aizen backs up Kenpachi's description of how reaitsu works in the verse, so yeah is legit.Kidkinsey said:so then his statement about AP negating hax cant be trusted?
Here are the scenes I am talking about.
Aizen gives his speech. - Chapter 391
Here Ichigo tells Aizen when he "felt" Aizen activating KS in FKT arc and Kubo show us the panel when Aizen is raising his sword to cut down Soifon during his speech. Chapter 684
Most likely he activated KS when he unsheathed his blade.
1. Kenpachi didn't "one shot him" I think Tousen let himself be "defeated" since later he appeared and captured Rukia and Renji for Aizen and brought them to the Sokyoku. He had no wounds, so I wouldn't be surprise if that Tousen that Kenpachi one-shot was an illusion. But assuming he was the real Tousen we need to understand that Tousen was caught by surprised by Kenpachi and didn't react in time. Reiatsu isn't passive until is activated.Kidkinsey said:1. so are you saying kenpachi and tousen were realtitive to eachother? because kenpachi 2 shot him iirc, and i agree there canceling attacks because youre stronger is understandable but like imagine saying ichigo resist professor x mind hax because hius ap is higher
2. true i forgot it was base ywach, but as soon as he went SK he should have negated KS according to aizens hax ap rule
3. aizen lowering his power does make more sense then gin scaling to him tbh
Also aizen wanted to see what mettod gin would use to "kill" him.AppleLord said:3. Yes, I don't think Gin should scale at all to that Aizen.