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And if you assert that all Raiton is as fast as natural lightning, you would be saying they're all as fast as Kirin, (using the same lightning speed standard), which is contradictory to how Kirin is portrayed as much faster than regular Raiton.Damage3245 said:My point about Kirin is basically this:
1) If we presume that Black Zetsu is referring to lightning in general (which he definitely seems to be going by his wording) then we can take the average height of clouds and divide it by the timeframe given to us (0.001 s) which gives us an average speed of lightning from the perspective of Black Zetsu / Kishimoto.
2) We have our own standard on the average speed of lightning.
3) Trying to use two different standards for the same thing is inherently wrong.
Saying that the Black Zetsu statement applies exclusively to Kirin is wrong because Black Zetsu's statement is very clearly referring to the speed of natural lightning in general.
And if we're presuming that Lightning Release jutsu is always as fast as natural lightning in general, then trying to use our own standard is contradicting what Black Zetsu has told us.
It's not that hard to understand and I'm inclined to agree with Damage in regards to this specific point.