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Illumina major downgrade

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Not getting involved, but I do want to suggest this because it has to do with the topic and it might be important:

I think we should have a discussion on what exactly the standard should be for the size of a "dream world" going foward. Because since it's a dream, "anything" (in quotes for an obvious reason) can happen as far as size and what makes up a dream world. So what would be the standard size for a world/dimension thats dream based? Planet to universe sized?

I think this is an issue that deserves its own thread and should be discussed in order to find a suitable standard on it for future crts.
 
It's what the world's shown to contain, same as any other pocket dimension stuff. Dream world standards are the same as pocket dimension ones.
 
Except it doesn't take physical energy to dream an entire continuum. The imagination can run as wild as it wants without repercussion. Hell I can dream that I'm 1-A & it would be so.
 
Pretty sure he means rating them within the context of the dream itself, and that these "dream world" feats assume the worlds are real enough to count. You can very well be 1-A within the context of your own dream if you so chose.
 
That wasnt what I was arguing. Of course if the dreams arent actual real worlds then they dont count as anything more than OP Dream Manipulation.

What I was arguing was that if people want to try and quantify dream worlds as being a certain tier based on their size (Ex: 3-A for making a universe-sized dream world, 2-A for making an infinite group of dream universes, etc.), then we should have a discussion on what the standard for a Dream Worlds size should be, at least on average. Since, you know, its a dream and the world the dream takes place can be as big as...anything you wish.
 
This would still fall under the standard size for any pocket dimension, that being what's demonstrated. I don't quite remember the conclusion to that thread, but I believe it can be found in the highlight thread, if you're interested.
 
Found the thread. Despite participating myself, I couldn't tell you the conclusions off the top of my head. I think there may have been something posted to some sort of regulatory page, but idk. Have fun reading, I guess.
 
The real cal howard said:
Then please tell me how Maginaryworld holds all of the worlds even though it's explicitly shown that fourth dimension space holds it.
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Yeah that's heavily implied
 
What are the conclusions here?
 
Okay. I will unsubscribe to this thread. You can send me a message later if you need my help with something.
 
From our tiering system:

A query that might arise is the existence of lower-dimensional beings in a higher-dimensional plane, and what it implies. Contrary to how complicated it sounds, the explanation for it is quite simple.

As noted previously, every being and object has an infinite number of dimensional aspects, with most of them being zero. For example, a regular bar of soap has an infinite number of dimensional aspects, but the value of all such dimensional vectors, apart from the three basic spatial dimensions (length, breadth and height), is zero.

In other words, every being and object exists in a higher-dimensional space (apart from those High 1-B and above), only with the magnitude of higher dimensional vectors being zero.

To summarize, simply existing in a higher-dimensional space does not classify a character as higher-dimensional in any way.

Techinically Sonic and Co. could still move around in the Fourth Dimension, it's just that they couldn't experience or move through the 4D aspects of it.

Also somebody might want to change the fact that it says "Breadth" instead of Width.
 
Sonic: Look, the worlds we travelled through...

Lumina: Can you see? All the worlds exist separately...

So the dreams and dream worlds exist in the 4D space. Most of the dreams we see are smaller than the characters and look like stars in the distance. Also day and night cycles are completely irrelevant when those stars could literally be the dreams in the distance which look like stars. Even Multi Solar System level is looking like a leap.
 
False equivalency at its finest. In Kirby, a planet is a planet. Also that dude argued maps. This is literally nothing like that.
 
ShadowWarrior1999 said:
Fourth Dimensional Space is one of the worlds. Unless you want to say planets in Kirby are room sized then aesthetics are irrelevant.
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It contains the worlds inside them bro. It was stated twice so prove me wrong.
 
If one dream is 4D, it's pretty safe to assume that the other ones are.

Since it's called the "Fourth Dimension" and technically nothing contradicts this as 3D characters can move through 4D space, just not freely, and each world is likely compareable to every other world in size that means that each one is 4D (Though once again, Sonic and Co. just can't move freely through it).
 
Zamasu Chan said:
Saying something exists separately doesn't Meade a different space time continuum.
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The fact that one of these worlds is called Fourth Dimension Space and they're all shown to be in their own bubbles indicates that they are separate universes.
 
Except that's not true as Luumina says outright that they're not in Fourth Dimension space while in the other worlds.
 
The real cal howard said:
^

This

All countries exist separately. Does that's mean they're entirely separate universes?
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This is a very bad example when most countries are physically connected by land.

In a multiverse, the universes all exist in a higher-dimensional space.
 
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