I have a question (Marvel Comics)

[Huesito88]

Alright so Genocides Blast was Calulated at city level. I know it is ridicilous to put the other marvel Characters on city level(100 precent ridicilous). Genocide is constently potrayed as under Archangel and Uriel (Archangels son) stomped Genocide. Also it can't be clac stacking since 3 issues later Uriel talked about how his Father let Genocide destroy the town. But what would we consider this? A outliner, Marvel inconsistencies?

Edit: this has now changed to a discussion of giving Archangel a new key

 

[Huesito88]

I'll sum up Genocide Character and litteraly all his apperances since he has only been in 12 comics (one of them being a flash back)

He is the son of Apocayplse

He gets freed by Archangel

He then serves Archangel

He blasts wolverine which melts half his body and stops his healing factor because his radiation is overwhelms his healing factor, while fighting the x-force because Archangel doesn't have time for them

The x-force manage to open Genocide suit (without his suit he can't sontrol his powers)

next time we see him is in uncanny avengers where that he states his fire is as strong as the core of the sun then gets stomped by Uriel so bad that he needed to retreat

then convinces angel to cut his wings (so he can free himself from the Archangel persona) and he uses them to create a army of Archangels

Get killed by Magneto

Note that in this storyline Archangel was becoming the next apocalypse so maybe a key as he was becoming apocalypse can be given. Also he hasn't lost his power since that story he got stabbed by the celestial seed which erased his memories and recreated him using it's energy current Angel is actually a fusion of the Archangel clones Genocide created.

 

[Ryukama]

I suppose an outlier if he's treated as below characters with feats nowhere close to this level.

 

[Js250476]

And if it scales to someone it realistically shouldn't

 

[Huesito88]

Also forgot to Mention that genocide can burn the world in fire (wiping out all life) via chain reaction using the atmosphere using a machines that amped his fire by a bit.

 

[Antvasima]

Marvel does not care at all about logical powerscaling. If Genocide has feats at a certain level it should probably count, but not necessarily scale to everybody who have beaten him.

 

[Huesito88]

Only magneto, Uriel actually beat Genocide the x-force could barely do anything to him and needed to retreat, in which Night crawler thought maybe I could remove his helmet and that may do something

The problem is in every apprreance you're always remind he is below Archangel (or atleast archangel when he was becoming apocalypse)

uncanny x-force (just two issues before he destroyed the town): when the x-force disabled his suit, Archangel tanked his full power attacks completely without a scratch and had enough time to fix his helmet while tanking his attacks (in this very issue it is stated that he would destroy all life granted it was with a amp and chain reaction)

uncanny avengers: Gets stomped by Uriel Archangel son

uncanny x-force: Needed to make a army of Archangels because he didn't believe he could do anything without them

 

[Antvasima]

Well, Archangel uses blades as weapons. Marvel tends to think that sharp objects can cut through anything, no matter how hard.

In addition, Archangel was more powerful than normal at the time.

 

[Huesito88]

That what I'm suggesting now a new key for Archangel at his peck or even currently sinces he his technically a fusion of all his clones

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that may be an idea, but it is hard to scale him without any feats.

 

[Huesito88]

I found a feat just waiting for someone to calc it

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. You can ask here about that then:

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1136153

 

[Huesito88]

Already did just waiting

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Huesito88]

Are there any class 50 profiles here?

 

[Antvasima]

Well, there is Vision and non-Binary Carol Danvers, for example.

 

[Huesito88]

I don't know if we can, but Uriel and His sister (Children of Apocalypse Archangel) are both classified as Class 50 by Marvel

 

[Antvasima]

I think that it is hard to properly classify those characters, given that their feats are far higher than that. It is better to stick to Marvel characters with a lot of history and displays of power.

 

[Huesito88]

Alright then city level should do since I got the feat calculated (though I'm kinda waiting for it to have a slight recal which will still only make it a higher end city level feat)

 

[Antvasima]

I meant that temporary Marvel characters with few appearances and contradictory power levels are not well suited to get profiles here.

 

[Huesito88]

Oh alright then I guess this can be closed then

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.