Himiko Toga vs Tohka Yatogami (An dere-dere girl vs yandere girl)

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Alright,let's do this match,Tohka meet an yandere girl but from aonther world,can she take her down? also jope this Himiko match will not dying soon

-Sealed Power Tohka is used

-Speed equalized

-Both in character

-Place located in random mountain road in Japan

-Win via death!!!





VS

• Himiko Toga: 0

• Tohka Yatogami: 0

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

BUMP!!

 

[AKM sama]

What abilities does Tohka retain in her sealed form?

 

[The_Causality]

Well, I don't see Toga win here.

Tohka still have the Telekinetic forcefield which allow her to reflect physical attack, she fly and can spam her pink getsuga tensho

 

[AKM sama]

Yes, if she retains her abilities even in her sealed form, she is much more versatile and I don't see Himiko winning here.

 

[Damage3245]

From the looks of it I'm going to have to go with Tohka on this. She has my vote for more impressive AP feat, and more abilities than Toga (who, without blood, is just a knife fighter pretty much).

 

[ExcelCore]

I'd argue that Himiko would win. Let me explain.

First of all, matches like these where it is almost impossible for one of the combatants to win, should not really be allowed. It is a disgusting practice that seems created sollely to either give one of the characters an easy win, or created because they want the other character to die. It is a setup in other words.

However despite having everything against her, there are ways for Himiko to win.


1. If the characters have their real personalities then Himiko would NEVER fight to the death if she noticed that she had no chance. She would simply run away, and with Tohka's sealed personality, the other character would not have followed her. Taking this into account the only way for Tohkoa to kill Himiko would be if she killed her as a reaction to an attack. Taking Tohka's way of fighting this would never happen. So how woudl a match like this happen? Did some omnipotent being force the two to fight?


2. If we go by personality, Toga would have stalked Tohka and been well aware of her weaknesses and strenghts. She would not have tried to kill her for real if she did not have any confidence and information about all her abilities.


3. Toga would have simply transformed into somebody that Tohka likes, got up close and stabbed her in her heart.


4. Even with Tohka's telekenesis Toga could easilly slip past her defenses and kill her. Not only does it seem that Toga is faster tnan Tohka, with her techique where she slips in and out of her opponents sight, there is a huge chance that she would be able to kill the other girl before she was even able to react and create a forcefield.


So in the end, despite this match being created simply because the creator of this match wants to kill Toga... I still say that Toga would win.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

BUMP!!

 

[The_Causality]

>1. If the characters have their real personalities then Himiko would NEVER fight to the death if she noticed that she had no chance. She would simply run away, and with Tohka's sealed personality, the other character would not have followed her. Taking this into account the only way for Tohkoa to kill Himiko would be if she killed her as a reaction to an attack. Taking Tohka's way of fighting this would never happen. So how woudl a match like this happen? Did some omnipotent being force the two to fight?

Actually in a fight, both fight to kill or incap the opponent, toga fight tohka for kill her, she would not run away because she does not know the level of Tohka and if she does that, tohka will have just thrown her into a distance

>If we go by personality, Toga would have stalked Tohka and been well aware of her weaknesses and strenghts. She would not have tried to kill her for real if she did not have any confidence and information about all her abilities.

Actually no, in a fight like that, no one are prepared for this, thre is no stalk if she doesn't know her opponent, you can check the Standart battle assuption page if you want to know how fight work here

>3. Toga would have simply transformed into somebody that Tohka likes, got up close and stabbed her in her heart.

She need the blood of the person and she doesn't have prep time so no, and tohka isn't dumb for doesn't kill a girls who can transform into a person she like

>Even with Tohka's telekenesis Toga could easilly slip past her defenses and kill her. Not only does it seem that Toga is faster tnan Tohka, with her techique where she slips in and out of her opponents sight, there is a huge chance that she would be able to kill the other girl before she was even able to react and create a forcefield.

With speed unequalized, Tohka blitz everyone in MHA but it's speed is equalized, Tohka and toga have the same speed so tohka can react to all of toga's attacks with her forcefield (and she is way more skilled than toga in H2H)

You need to read the Standard Battle Assumptions

And yeah, it's a stomp, toga can do anythings here, tohka can just fly and cut her in half with ranged attack

 

[ExcelCore]

>Actually in a fight, both fight to kill or incap the opponent, toga fight tohka for kill her, she would not run away because she does not know the level of Tohka and if she does that, tohka will have just thrown her into a distance

That is why I am saying the match would not happen. It was specifically mentioned that their original personalities were the same as in canon. If this was the case then the match could not have happened the way you described it. Why would they start fighting to begin with? If the started fighting then Tohka would not have started blasting Toga. Tohka is not that kind of a girl. Likewise Toga would not have fought her outright like that if she had any say in it since that is not how her personality goes. The closest thing Toga could be compared to is a stealth assassin and as such she would never have fought her in a normal fight. She would have killed her in some other way, perhaps by transforming into somebody she knows and then feeding her poison.

>Actually no, in a fight like that, no one are prepared for this, thre is no stalk if she doesn't know her opponent, you can check the Standart battle assuption page if you want to know how fight work here

That is why I am saying that the battle could NEVER happen. If the two of them have their real personalities then they would NOT fight in a standard battle. You can't set up a standard battle if it can't be set up.

>She need the blood of the person and she doesn't have prep time so no, and tohka isn't dumb for doesn't kill a girls who can transform into a person she like

And that is why I am saying that this match could never happen, and that it was setup by the creator simply to kill off Toga. Allowing Toga a wide arrange of powers but removing Toga's only power? Fights like these really should be forbidden.

>With speed unequalized, Tohka blitz everyone in MHA but it's speed is equalized, Tohka and toga have the same speed so tohka can react to all of toga's attacks with her forcefield (and she is way more skilled than toga in H2H)

This was before her awakening so I don't see how Tohka could blitz anyone. As for the forcefield, you don't seem yo understand the technique that Toga was using. From how it was explained it seems that she was making use of the "blind spot" that exist because of how our eyes are designed. No matter how fast Tohka is, she would not be able to see Toga's attack coming. If she could not see the attack coming then she would not have any reason to form the forcefield.

>You need to read the Standard Battle Assumptions

Yes, and it is garbage. This part: "State of mind" simply makes for bad writing and still does not allow the fight to take place. The part about willing to kill says nothing about the characters actually trying to kill each other, it just says that they are WILLING to kill. Being willing to kill, and deciding to try and kill somebody without preparations when a character never does this nullifies the whole part about "being canon mind. Or did you miss the whole part where it says: "the characters will employ their usual battle strategies"? This part would make the fight impossible since she would not go for a normal kill, and if she did she would win anyway since she could simply slip past Tohka by hiding in her blind spot.

>it's a stomp, toga can do anythings here, tohka can just fly and cut her in half with ranged attack

Which is why I pointed out that the fight should not really be allowed. It tries to remove any chance Himiko has at victory. It removes her preparation. It makes the speed equalized. (sealed Tohka is slower that Toga) Tohka still has a lot of powers. And it places the fight in an open area.
But yes, even if going by sheer power Tohka would win (which is why this fight is garbage), I still vote for Toga because there IS a chance she can win.

This creator set the match up because he wanted to kill Toga. As such people voting should take this into account. Since there is a chance of Toga winning (see her hiding her presence), everyone should vote for Toga so that people setting up garbage matches like these don't get away with things like these.</div>

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Wait what? I made this match not wanted to kill Toga.

 

[The_Causality]

Tohka can sense hidding people; even if toga hide, tohka found her, plus, the blind point is useless if Tohka literally fly for spam attacks (Sealed Tohka is still JHypersonic, even in sealrd form, she blitz the entire verse)

So Tohka via versalities, ranged attacks, fly and almost all atacks who can kill toga before she do anythings

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I swear this is my worst match i created Lul,get harashed want to kill Toga here.

 

[The_Causality]

But in true, it's a pure stomp, Toga can't literally kill Tohka (i forget that her astral dress protect her from cutting) so it's better if you close thuis

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Right,at least i have Kaneki vs Tohka,come there.

Anyhow,gonna ask this to be closed.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

You can close it yourself?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

No,removing it will make the thing harder.