High 6-C Fire and Cold Tournament 2022: Group A - Meliodas vs Godzilla (Atomic)

[VsReferee]

he has spells with lightning as we have seen before

I dont remember, can you show a scan?

 

[Arkenis]

He has full countered cloud to ground lighting

Show?

 

[Majinere566]

Show?

Right here

And here

And in this scenario it's not noted to be full counter but he does reflect lightning

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

All this is magic

 

[Majinere566]

The last one isn't

All this is magic

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

The last one isn't

It's magic

It's directly something that came from Demon King

Literally this is the basic concept of Meliodas and his Full Counter, reflect magic

Also, I don't see how radiation has any correlation with lightning

 

[Majinere566]

It's magic

It's directly something that came from Demon King

Literally this is the basic concept of Meliodas and his Full Counter, reflect magic

Also, I don't see how radiation has any correlation with lightning

The Last one did not directly come from the Demon King there's no implications of said thing, you're missing the context.

Due to Meliodas and The Demon King's Power Brittania is self destruction causing cavitys in the land and Multiple storms, (Cloud to ground) which we see in the begin of this chapter. The Demon is busy fighting the other sins so I don't know where you're getting that the lightning came directly from the Demon King.

And I don't know either, all i'm saying is that he has reflected lightning numerous times

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

This storm is literally created thanks to Demon King and Meliodas

Now, do we use common sense and say it's magic shit, or do we create a new concept for Full Counter

 

[Arkenis]

Idk from what I’m getting the demon kings lightning is likely natural considering he can create storms with his presence similar to how Mel can. So if that’s what happened then it makes sense

 

[Majinere566]

This storm is literally created thanks to Demon King and Meliodas

Now, do we use common sense and say it's magic shit, or do we create a new concept for Full Counter

It's caused due to the imbalance of power since there's 2 demon kings, he is not directly creating it, infact it's brittania trying to reject them

it's a classic example of environmental destruction

 

[Arkenis]

This storm is literally created thanks to Demon King and Meliodas

Now, do we use common sense and say it's magic shit, or do we create a new concept for Full Counter

It’s created by their presence, does that mean they now create magical storms?

 

[Majinere566]

It’s created by their presence, does that mean they now create magical storms?

No, infact it's brittania doing the storms and other shit like that

 

[Arkenis]

Yeah this seems like some Juubi stuf, we don’t give juubi chakra lightning cause he caused massive storms with his power.

 

[Arkenis]

No, infact it's brittania doing the storms and other shit like that

Yea still be weather manip via aura.

 

[speedster352]

Yea still be weather manip via aura.

So we come to an agreement I suppose?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

It's caused due to the imbalance of power since there's 2 demon kings, he is not directly creating it, infact it's brittania trying to reject them

it's a classic example of environmental destruction

Yes, magic

Like, do you really want to create a new concept for the Full Counter? It's the most basic logic and common sense . At no point in the manga was it established or mentioned that "The Full Counter reflects magics and anything non-physical including radiation, something that was never even established in the verse". Like, really... That stupid, with all due respect; Actually, it's kind of obvious that Demon King controlled that lightning. He first controls the wind to lift Elizabeth up and then lightning almost hits her, and then it is reflected and Demon King says "She repelled the lightning..?". It is not even close to being something natural

However, I still vote for Meliodas for other reasons

 

[Majinere566]

No Magic

I am not trying to create a new concept for full counter or even asserted that full counter was used for this particular instance

And in this scenario it's not noted to be full counter but he does reflect lightning

At no point in the manga was it established or mentioned that "The Full Counter reflects magics and anything non-physical including radiation, something that was never even established in the verse". Like, really... That stupid, with all due respect

Again i never asserted any of this, I only asserted that he has full countered cloud to ground lightning, stop putting words into my arguments to push a false narrative for what I proposed.

Actually, it's kind of obvious that Demon King controlled that lightning. He first controls the wind to lift Elizabeth up and then lightning almost hits her, and then it is reflected and Demon King says "She repelled the lightning..?". It is not even close to being something natural

However, I still vote for Meliodas for other reasons

It's really not obvious lol, should i break it down chronologically?

1. Chapter starts with a shot of liones, bombarded with tornadoes and lightning
2. Cues back to the fight between king, escanor and ban
3. As they continue to fight, a whirlwind appears and flings Elizabeth into the air

As you can see in this panel he's still fighting. There's no implication in the narrative that he is the cause of the very specific whirlwind, what I can conclude from this is that, this happened due to the curse still being intact which makes sense when you count her near death experiences.

There's really nothing implying or even in the slightest hinting that the demon king controlled the lightning.

Asserting that the demon king is specifically responsible for this specific incident is kind of far fetched as he's only responsible for the imbalance of power

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Yes, I won't discuss this shit now, since it is irrelevant since it is accepted in the profile

If I ever get the urge I will create some crt

1. Chapter starts with a shot of liones, bombarded with tornadoes and lightning
2. Cues back to the fight between king, escanor and ban
3. As they continue to fight, a whirlwind appears and flings Elizabeth into the air

As you can see in this panel he's still fighting. There's no implication in the narrative that he is the cause of the very specific whirlwind, what I can conclude from this is that, this happened due to the curse still being intact which makes sense when you count her near death experiences.

But bruh

 

[Majinere566]

Yes, I won't discuss this shit now, since it is irrelevant since it is accepted in the profile

Whatever floats ya boat g

But bruh

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