High 6-C Fire and Cold Tournament 2022: Group A -Godzilla (Atomic) vs kamen Rider Vulcan

[DemonicDude]

Group A: Hell-Bringers
Round 8:
Same Rules as stated in the Tournament.

• Speed Equalized
• Random encounters no prior knowledge to anybody or of the location.
• Location: Inferno Island

Two top fighters of Group A competes for 4 more points as we are only 2 rounds away from the semi finals.
Results:
Atomic-meltdown Godzilla: 1 (Naitodesu)
Kamen Rider Vulkan (First Key): 7 (Nicetoderp, Cheat, Lynieryz, DemonicDude, Veloxt, Speed, Popted2)
Inconclusive:

 

[speedster352]

Starting moves and haxes in character? Leaning on godzilla for his heat and radiation hax

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Does Vulcan resist Radiation?

 

[Arkenis]

Vulcan looking like he has no resistance to heat and radiation and his range is dozens of kilometers with it being omnidirectional so Im seeing Godzilla win this one. Unless Vulcans rpl can get him resisting then Godzilla wins.

 

[speedster352]

Godzilla fra

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Pretty sure Godzilla explodes GG.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Folks, wait for Kamen Rider supporters to come before voting

 

[Nicetoderp]

Vulcan open with speed amp.

Vulcan have heat vision which basically allow him to see that Godzilla and everything around it is INSANELY hot.

This basically mean that Vulcan just shoot Godzilla from range in speed amp until it drop dead.

AP difference? There is no AP difference in late Z1. Only RPL diff.

But if the heat and radiation passive are kilometers long then Vulcan really won't survived.

 

[speedster352]

Vulcan open with speed amp.

Vulcan have heat vision which basically allow him to see that Godzilla and everything around it is INSANELY hot.

This basically mean that Vulcan just shoot Godzilla from range in speed amp until it drop dead.

AP difference? There is no AP difference in late Z1. Only RPL diff.

But if the heat and radiation passive are kilometers long then Vulcan really won't survived.

The heat and radiation is several km long and as hot as the sun

 

[speedster352]

So what are the arguments?

 

[IxaSaga2]

Vulcan can possibly fly directly on top of Godzilla, out of range of the heatwaves. He can then shoot his gun/ shoot out his Danmaku for above. That way, he'll get past the range deficit because the bullets/stingers will rain downwards.

 

[speedster352]

Vulcan can possibly fly directly on top of Godzilla, out of range of the heatwaves. He can then shoot his gun/ shoot out his Danmaku for above. That way, he'll get past the range deficit because the bullets/stingers will rain downwards.

Range: Several dozen meters by sheer virtue of size, 167.7416 meters with tail, Thousands of kilometers with Atomic Breath, after absorbing Mothra's life-energy he gained extrasensory perception in a planetary scale | Several kilometers with Nuclear Pulse (incinerated several city blocks of Boston)

 

[IxaSaga2]

Vulcan can fly comparable to an advanced fighter jet. A normal fighter jet can fly 4.5 km to 6 km. Vulcan can shoot from above which negs the range because where else is the bullet going to go except the ground. Atomic Breathe won't be able to hit him. 1. It's not omni-directional. 2. It takes a long time to charge up and lights glow to give the signal. 3. Vulcan has a big ass speed boost. 4. Vulcan's perception can see it coming from a mile away.

 

[speedster352]

Vulcan can fly comparable to an advanced fighter jet. A normal fighter jet can fly 4.5 km to 6 km. Vulcan can shoot from above which negs the range because where else is the bullet going to go except the ground. Atomic Breathe won't be able to hit him. 1. It's not omni-directional. 2. It takes a long time to charge up and lights glow to give the signal. 3. Vulcan has a big ass speed boost. 4. Vulcan's perception can see it coming from a mile away.

Did you not see the omni directional attacks that meltdown Godzilla has and his heat is 17 million degrees and it's passive?

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

So who thought the overgrown lizard with passive "**** you" levels of heat was okay?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So who thought the overgrown lizard with passive "**** you" levels of heat was okay?

If it was normal Godzilla, it would've been fine. Meltdown Godzilla is just a completely different beast entirely.

 

[IxaSaga2]

Did you not see the omni directional attacks that meltdown Godzilla has and his heat is 17 million degrees and it's passive?

The omni-direction attacks (nuclear pulse) are several kilometers, which...can't reach Vulcan. "Several kilometers with Nuclear Pulse (incinerated several city blocks of Boston) "

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

So...should we change it to normal Godzilla?

 

[Noneless21]

So...should we change it to normal Godzilla?

If we changw it to normal godzilla then Naruto may beat him

Also, there's a warhammer character here so this godzilla is not our biggest worry

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I mean passive heat and radiation are too much if you ask me

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

But looks like Ixa can find a way to make Vulcan win here so i'm not going to continuing further lel

 

[Noneless21]

It was listed at Vulcan's range to be hundreds of meters, do i miss something bout Vulcan's range? Also, SBA says that both of these character start with their range so Vulcan and Godzilla will start at hundred of meters iirc

 

[IxaSaga2]

He isn't able to reach Vulcan. Just like how those helicopters weren't hit from his blasts.

I mean passive heat and radiation are too much if you ask me

But looks like Ixa can find a way to make Vulcan win here so i'm not going to continuing further lel

Yea, I wanted to debate this part. First, Godzilla's pulses were clearly charged, the blue lightning and the revving sounds right before the blast was indicative of that, so that means, it is not passive. Second, we see Burning Godzilla for like 2 minutes before reverting back to normal Godzilla. After 2 minutes, he was no longer shoot out any blasts of radiation.

It was listed at Vulcan's range to be hundreds of meters, do i miss something bout Vulcan's range? Also, SBA says that both of these character start with their range so Vulcan and Godzilla will start at hundred of meters iirc

If you fly directly above Godzilla and shoot down, the bullets go nowhere except downwards. This is also in character, because he did this against Thouser and his partner, Valkyrie, does that regularly so he can take a page out of her book.

Btw guys, Vulcan's range is 2km so we need to put him in a revision.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Oh man, another missing part from Fuwa/Vulcan page

 

[Nicetoderp]

From the video I have seen the first aura that melt the building was very much near him, nowhere near kilometres like the pulse of energy. Should be plenty of range for Fuwa to just speed amp and filled Godzilla with plenty of blast

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

From the video I have seen the first aura that melt the building was very much near him, nowhere near kilometres like the pulse of energy. Should be plenty of range for Fuwa to just speed amp and filled Godzilla with plenty of blast

That's if he can even damage him at first since he No-Sold all of Amped Ghidorah's Attacks and then proceeded to nuke him.

 

[DemonicDude]

Does Kamen Rider Vulkan face Large size type 2 opponents very often ? What's his experience with...um how do I say this eh...."large sized" opponents in combat ?

 

[BERRIES555]

He’s fought against Gigers who have Large Size 0, but nothing as big as Godzilla. So I think we’ll try to be caution and keep at range because of Godzilla’s size.

 

[Arceus0x]

Ik this may sound sus but we DON'T know if Godzilla can or cannot use his atomic breath. In fact, there's no evidence that he doesn't, it's just that he spammed multi-km omnidirectional blasts a lot because they were effective against Ghidorah. Otherwise he has the atomic breath and has a range of ~8000km.

 

[Nicetoderp]

That's if he can even damage him at first since he No-Sold all of Amped Ghidorah's Attacks and then proceeded to nuke him.

Yes, it should be pretty easy because of RPL.

To reiterate again, one of the slowest RPL trigger when he hot his punch dodge once. Vulcan current RPL level in this key is at least two layers above that.

 

[IxaSaga2]

Atomic breath is the easiest thing to dodge in Godzilla's arsenal. The range isn't wide enough and the blast itself takes so long to charge and is very telegraphed. Someone with quick reactions and speed amp like Vulcan should be able to see that coming from a mile away.

 

[RoTt35]

Why is the atomic breath being mentioned? Godzilla in that form only spams nuclear pulses which cannot be dodged if someone is within his range of several kilometers since they are omnidirectional attacks.
By the way, Godzilla with his atomic breath can hit fighter jets in mid-flight, plus he can use it quickly without charging.
Godzilla FRA

 

[Naito-desu]

Voting Godzilla fra

 

[CheatHydra]

Lizard FRA

 

[Nicetoderp]

Why is the atomic breath being mentioned? Godzilla in that form only spams nuclear pulses which cannot be dodged if someone is within his range of several kilometers since they are omnidirectional attacks.
By the way, Godzilla with his atomic breath can hit fighter jets in mid-flight, plus he can use it quickly without charging.
Godzilla FRA

By the fact that Vulcan open with speed amp and shot him to death

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Voting Godzilla fra

Lizard FRA

Goddammit folks, just wait until the debate reach conclusion before voting pls

 

[RoTt35]

By the fact that Vulcan open with speed amp and shot him to death

According to OP, the first key of Kamen Rider Vulkan is being used, which doesn't mention anything about speed amps in his profile.
Godzilla has an AP and dura far above 550 Gigatons, KRV upscales to 125 Gigatons. So Godzilla has an advantage of at least ×4.4, which would actually be much higher since he three shot King Ghidorah and resisted his attacks like nothing, who has an AP and dura of 526 Gigatons if I'm not wrong. Also, Godzilla has regeneration and energy absorption, and most of the attacks of KRV are energy-based according to his profile.

 

[Lynieryz]

Vulcan fra.

 

[Nicetoderp]

According to OP, the first key of Kamen Rider Vulkan is being used, which doesn't mention anything about speed amps in his profile.
Godzilla has an AP and dura far above 550 Gigatons, KRV upscales to 125 Gigatons. So Godzilla has an advantage of at least ×4.4, which would actually be much higher since he three shot King Ghidorah and resisted his attacks like nothing, who has an AP and dura of 526 Gigatons if I'm not wrong. Also, Godzilla has regeneration and energy absorption, and most of the attacks of KRV are energy-based according to his profile.

Doesn't work like that, in other thread DD said to used the weakest key for Kamen Rider Vulcan which would be Rampage Vulcan from the Workplace Comp arc,which have massive speed amp via Rampage Speed. And this form is even used in Meliodas match as well so it matched

Only that? Nowhere near enough of a gap that RPL in Kamen Rider Zero-One can covered, try going over 50x first and we'll talk about AP gap

 

[RoTt35]

Then which key of KRV is being used? And what speed would KRV have with the amps and how does his RPL work?
Correct me if I'm wrong but RPL wouldn't work if Godzilla can oneshoot KRV with the first attack thanks to the initial AP advantage, extreme heat and radiation