Hakai upgrade ( Dragon ball )

[the_doctor]

Hi, this is revision about hakai Dragon ball.

Hakai can neg immortality type 2, 3, 7
and hakai have soul manipulation.

1. Hakai can erase a Soul, soul is a death being. So Hakai neg immortality type 7 and soul manipulation.

2. Hakai can Erase anything becomes non exist, so Hakai should can erase buu and Cell so, hakai neg low-high regeneration and mid-high regeneration. Hakai can neg immortality type 2 and 3.



Sorry, if my English word so bad.

 

[Thelastmlg]

This is all redudant because spiritual EE already does all of this by default

 

[Remus1998]

What he said

 

[theultimate5105]

None of that makes it immortality or regen negation
Regen negation would be only hakaing a small piece of cell (like say his arm) and him not being able to regen it
Immortality neg type 2 would only work if it killed someone with a attack which did not do enough damage to kill them like killing someone who easily survives being split in half by cutting them in half in the exact same way

 

[the_doctor]

None of that makes it immortality or regen negation
Regen negation would be only hakaing a small piece of cell (like say his arm) and him not being able to regen it
Immortality neg type 2 would only work if it killed someone with a attack which did not do enough damage to kill them like killing someone who easily survives being split in half by cutting them in half in the exact same way

Just scalling for regeneration negation, how about neg immortality type 7?

 

[the_doctor]

This is all redudant because spiritual EE already does all of this by default

Yes, but why Not listed in profile.

 

[Thelastmlg]

Yes, but why Not listed in profile.

Because it is redudant, else we'd need to give those abilities to every character with physical and spiritual existence erasure, the ability has those by default so is not needed to list them.

 

[Vietthai96]

To be blunt here, it is not negate anything, more like the capabilities of Hakai which up to Soul Erasure is beyond the capabilities of those immortalities and regenerations. Thus Hakai didn't negate anything

 

[the_doctor]

Terus terang di sini, itu tidak meniadakan apa pun, lebih seperti kemampuan Hakai yang hingga Soul Erasure berada di luar kemampuan keabadian dan regenerasi itu. Jadi Hakai tidak meniadakan apapun

even can't neg immortality type 7?

 

[the_doctor]

Because it is redudant, else we'd need to give those abilities to every character with physical and spiritual existence erasure, the ability has those by default so is not needed to list them.

Nice information.

 

[the_doctor]

To be blunt here, it is not negate anything, more like the capabilities of Hakai which up to Soul Erasure is beyond the capabilities of those immortalities and regenerations. Thus Hakai didn't negate anything

Why? Because a beerus statement?

 

[Vietthai96]

even can't neg immortality type 7?

Yes, because Hakai erase up to soul, Immortality type 7 only cover up to soul and spiritual being, thus it can't defend against EE at soul level

 

[StekFence]

It’s not negging the Immortality. It’s just hitting harder then the immortality would allow the user to survive.

 

[the_doctor]

Ya, karena Hakai menghapus hingga jiwa, Immortality tipe 7 hanya menutupi jiwa dan makhluk spiritual, sehingga tidak bisa bertahan melawan EE di level jiwa.

Ok nice information

 

[Thelastmlg]

For instance, you can overcome those immortalities to a extent by simple hitting hard enough, unless the character regen is high and about energy (from what i recall) you can "neg" the immortalities with AP

 

[theultimate5105]

For instance, you can overcome those immortalities to a extent by simple hitting hard enough, unless the character regen is high and about energy (from what i recall) you can "neg" the immortalities with AP

being based on elementary particles also means it cannot be negged with AP

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Hi, this is revision about hakai Dragon ball.

Hakai can neg immortality type 2, 3, 7
and hakai have soul manipulation.

1. Hakai can erase a Soul, soul is a death being. So Hakai neg immortality type 7 and soul manipulation.

2. Hakai can Erase anything becomes non exist, so Hakai should can erase buu and Cell so, hakai neg low-high regeneration and mid-high regeneration. Hakai can neg immortality type 2 and 3.



Sorry, if my English word so bad.

I think it would work with denial of immortality type 4, where all DB beings go to the afterlife to be reborn, only they have no memory, they will have a new way to be reborn.

And in this scan it is mentioned directly that Frieza will not be able to come back with Bills erasure

 

[Vietthai96]

I think it would work with denial of immortality type 4, where all DB beings go to the afterlife to be reborn, only they have no memory, they will have a new way to be reborn.

And in this scan it is mentioned directly that Frieza will not be able to come back with Bills erasure

No, reborn via afterlife is not really resurrection, they reborn as a new person and also it is the verse mechanic not character's own ability. Resurrection mean they resurrect themselves after being killed.

Frieza case is also no, since in DB character can still somewhat alive in soul state and can return if they get their body back, Hakai just hit hard to the point that soul is gone, it not really target resurrection and negate it directly