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Beerus mind destruction
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I think it's just EE. I've never seen any character gain Mind Manipulation by doing EE on someone's soul and mind.
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Mind erasure is already covered by EE, just put that on the justification of hakai (Can erase mind and souls)
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Again it doesn’t cover it by default and what is it when you erase a concept and it alters the concept?
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nor is it mention to be mind manipulation on the page https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Mind_Manipulation?so=search
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Sincerely.
It's just EE, but for some reason people want to put skills in the P&A section.
It would only be EE (affects body, soul and mind)
But people want to make it redundant, wanting to put soul destruction (soul manipulation) and mind destruction (mind manipulation?)
It's just EE affecting different things.
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I mean that when a character erases you from history/concepts, by default your body, soul, mind, etc get erased too, but you don't get matter/mind/soul/information hax just because these get erased as secondary effect.
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Simply put EE (Affects body, soul, mind and concept)
Put this in the justification between ()
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To be honest, how concept destruction gets treated on the site is... weird? It would be simply EE by the site standards but I guess it's the exception due to the types.
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That’s weird, why does he have that?Speaking of which, they gave it to Goku for taking a Ki Orb from Jiren and destroying it.
From Memory Manipulation to EE since it is erasing the memories that remain in the mind and brain.
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I've never seen characters gain Mind and Soul Manipulation because of EE.
Now who does EE would also gain matter manipulation (erase the whole body without leaving anything) soul manipulation, mind manipulation and likely memory manipulation for erasing the mind? Never seen it.
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I don't know
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Is there anything like resistance to mind destruction?
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Because its stupid. I differ.
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There isn't even such a page, and the Mind Manipulation page doesn't even mention destroying the mind. If someone does EE in someone's mind, I see it as just EE but managing to affect the mind. It would be like non-physical interaction, it can affect many things.
In fact, the page that mentions destroying the mind, is the EE page, that's why I say it's just EE.
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Where is the evidence specifically for Mind Erasure?
I don't think destroying the soul by itself is sufficient.
(To give an example; it'd be like if an ordinary person was shot, they died, and their "mind" no longer exists now. But being shot =/= mind erasure. Hence destroying the soul, although the character's mind is no longer around, doesn't necessarily mean their mind was erased on the same level)
I don't think destroying the soul by itself is sufficient.
(To give an example; it'd be like if an ordinary person was shot, they died, and their "mind" no longer exists now. But being shot =/= mind erasure. Hence destroying the soul, although the character's mind is no longer around, doesn't necessarily mean their mind was erased on the same level)
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Disagree with what?
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How did you come to this conclusion, my friend? Do you use Discord?
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Soul=mind
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that would just be resistance to EE in that aspect
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say this because soul=mind and soul=mind is accepted
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I would argue that what you are saying is insufficient for mind manipulation, and therefore, it should be confined to "E.E." Because when the destruction of the soul is associated with the mind, this event does not provide us with sufficient evidence. If youy had more solid evidence or if there was a scene where the mind was actually affected (it doesn't feel right to come to this conclusion indirectly), I might agree with you. But not this time.
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I am increasingly frustrated by the fact that they are attempting to introduce the idea of soul and mind destruction within a feat explicitly involving existence erasure. It seems excessively nitpicky to me.
Would you ping Glass if you don't mind? Thank you.
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This soul=mind was discussed and it was recognized that when hakai erases a being, it erases both body, mind and soul. If there was no mind=spirit, zamasu could not have middle divinity.
This seems more logical, if you disagree with what I am saying, you are not accepting zamasu as middle divinity and you are denying the accepted crt.
This seems more logical, if you disagree with what I am saying, you are not accepting zamasu as middle divinity and you are denying the accepted crt.
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But there is no mind destruction here, there is no soul destruction, hell it is EE and you are simply overly nitpicking the feat.
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Nope, that’s literally not it. EE by default is erasing the mind. Its on the profile for the ability. Again, we’re not giving him atomic manipulation for erasing atomic bonds.
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Lmfao
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You're funny, man. Seriously, there are even scenes of hakain destroying souls.
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that is just EE
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That's what this feels like.
It feels disingenuous as hell for people to be proposing that Goku has resistance to having his mind erased.
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And it already exists.
Go on Goku's profile, it has "resistance to EE and soul destruction" linking to soul manipulation.
Since this could all be summed up in resistance to EE (affects soul, mind)
Or something like that.
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I have been called funny, alright.
When are we going to close the thread?
When are we going to close the thread?
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Since soul=mind and goku is based on hakai, it is automatically based on mind destruction.
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When it is accepted
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won't this be turned off since mods are rejecting it?
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They oppose the previously accepted crt, I haven't seen a counter argument, they officially deny mind=soul and they don't accept that even if beerus erased the
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