Grizzly Bear Durability Upgrade

[GojiBoyForever]

In this video a bear is hit by a semi truck on an interstate road and gets up just fine. This would bring the Durability's of the Grizzly Bear and Polar Bear to Wall level+.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Bump

 

[GojiBoyForever]

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[GojiBoyForever]

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[GojiBoyForever]

Also does this scale to AP since other bears can harm each other?

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Bump

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Do you know how fast that Semi-Trailer Truck was moving?

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Not exactly. I used the reference for common feats average.

 

[Antoniofer]

The truck actually didn't see that fast. Also take into account that durability in the real world doesn't work in the same way here, so damaging a bear do not means that someone have generated the strength of a truck crashing.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

That's kind of important, the attack potency of a moving vehicle varies depends on how fast it travels. It would only be 9-B if it wasn't going all that fast. Plus, I did hear from other calc group members that the durability to survive a vehicle impact isn't quite as impressive as the yield of the car. The size of the person/animal compared to the Car is also important as small targets are hard to land solid hits on.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Ok so this is invalid?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

It could be calculated more properly, but I doubt it would change the rating. So there is something worth looking at, but that's more so something we could ask a calc group member for.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Ok.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Assuming:

1. Semi-truck weights of 9100 kg and 15000 kg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-trailer_truck

2. Assuming higher end US/Canada legal highway speed limits of 120 kmph (33.3333 m/s)

KE = 0.5*(Mass in kg)*(33.3333^2)

We end up with 1.21 and 1.99 kg TNT equivalent respectively.

Wall level+ starts at 2.5018 kg TNT equivalent.

You enter Wall level+ territory only when you assume semi-truck weight of 36000 kg.

I favour the lower estimates with 9100 kg and 15000 kg (and keep in mind that I high-balled the speed estimate).

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Plus, I did hear from other calc group members that the durability to survive a vehicle impact isn't quite as impressive as the yield of the car. The size of the person/animal compared to the Car is also important as small targets are hard to land solid hits on.

Regardless, it's a solid Wall level durability feat and definitely not Wall level+ in my opinion. You end up with the latter only if you really high-ball both the semi-truck weight guesstimate and speed guesstimate, and assume the bear took all the KE on impact.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

I already put in the request before I saw this message. Should I remove it?

 

[Soldier_Blue]

I already put in the request before I saw this message. Should I remove it?

Eh... It's up to you.

 

[Antoniofer]

Take into account that someone never tank the entire amount of energy of the crash unless your mass is > to the one that crashed with you. The smaller one are, the most likely is that suffer less damage, like when you hand strike a fly and it do not suffer damage.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yeah, there's definitely no "+" sign here.

 

[KLOL506]

If the bear was slammed into a wall, it would count.

But since it didn't happen, we can figure out the speed the bear was hurled at and then use that as a reference. Won't change much tho.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Ok.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

If the bear was slammed into a wall, it would count.

But since it didn't happen, we can figure out the speed the bear was hurled at and then use that as a reference. Won't change much tho.

Did you ever do this?

 

[KLOL506]

Nah, forgot the formula.

 

[KLOL506]

You can ask some of the calc members on this.

 

[KLOL506]

OK got the formula.

FinalSpeed = (MassCar*InitialSpeed)MassPerson+MassCar)

Then we slap the speed and mass of the bear into the KE calculator.

Final speed= (9100*33.3333)/(270+9100)= 32.373 m/s

KE: 0.5*270*32.373^2= 141,481.502415 J (Wall level)

Yep. Wall level through and through.

Also got Wall level for black bears getting hit that hard.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

So Bear is like 10x Baseline? Nice

 

[KLOL506]

For black bears, with a small weight of 59 kg...

Final speed (9100*33.3333)/(59+9100)= 33.119 m/s

KE= 0.5*59*33.119^2= 32,356.781 J (Also Wall level)

 

[GojiBoyForever]

So we should add these to those profiles?

 

[KLOL506]

Let's see what the others think.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks pretty good to me.