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Gravity Falls downgrade summary
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Mostly, with paradox immunity.TheArsenal1212 said:
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So, any other reasons for tier 2?
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It is link as Acausality (Type 1) to be exact
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Sweet than that's what it is.
High 3A Bill and TB then?
High 3A Bill and TB then?
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So it seems. Azzy said he would look at this, so I guess will have to just wait now.
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Sweet. Maybe he can win some matches now hahaha
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The Time wish alter the can alter reality not just time proven since it made the infinite pizzaRicsi-viragosi said:
Some evidence for this thread
- Bill Cipher he stated himself as having a "Multi-Dimensional" make over when he talked with Ford and I have two scans from the real life Journal 3 which is canon material produced by Al
ex Hirsch, the producer of Gravity Falls.
Quick Review of Bill's old reasoning for Low 2-C rating
- At least Universe level+ (Bill's entrance into the physical universe destroyed and distorted most of its natural laws, such as killing time and bringing inanimate objects to life. His influence will incredibly quickly spread over the universe, allowing him even more complete control than he already has. One-shot the Time Police and Time Baby, who governs space-time. Has outright stated that he has full control over space, matter and time)
Also, the connection between the nightmare realm and the universe caused it's laws to fall apart, and was stated tohat it would eventually destroy it if not stopped.
- The connection is just a gate to Bill's world nothing more.
- It has been open without adverse consequences to reality and again it is referred to as a portal
- So the rip that is from Bill's power and also laws failure not the portal.
- The counterexample would be Stanley's portal which will alter gravity, however, it seems that how Stanley's design it to work.
- about Environmental Destruction, the huge problem about it is that Bill Cipher is unconcerned about it even despite even his range restricted for multiversal travel. I think this highlighted that it is a reach to say that High 3-A but can survive Low 2-C destruction without High-Godly. So, he would have to be 4-D for this.
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Well that's actually true. Making fun of the humans for being 3D would imply he's 4D, because a 2D wouldn't joke about a being infinitely above him.
But apart from that, infinite pizza is just reality warping isn't it?
But apart from that, infinite pizza is just reality warping isn't it?
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The image you gave is the reasoning for his 2-A.
I already debunked the old reasoning already in the last thread.
It being Bills power doesn't matter. It's a chain reaction, and not aplicable to AP.
Him being unbothered by it isn't a dura feat, as he lives outside of it, and it being destroyed isn't in an explosion so that he needs dura to survive.
Being 4-D is High 3-A regardless.
I already debunked the old reasoning already in the last thread.
It being Bills power doesn't matter. It's a chain reaction, and not aplicable to AP.
Him being unbothered by it isn't a dura feat, as he lives outside of it, and it being destroyed isn't in an explosion so that he needs dura to survive.
Being 4-D is High 3-A regardless.
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A little off topic but where does Bills Low-Godly come from?
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He created a physical body with his mindscaper self, which he describes as a ghost.
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Also, to explain better why surviving the destruction of reality as he would have isn't a dura feat:
It was not done through a destructive force. By extension, it's not dura that is needed to survive it
It was, insted, done through the laws of reality falling apart. At most you'll give him limited acasuality for it.
It was not done through a destructive force. By extension, it's not dura that is needed to survive it
It was, insted, done through the laws of reality falling apart. At most you'll give him limited acasuality for it.
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I think all that be discussed has been discussed now
High 3A for both is fine and has my vote hahaha
High 3A for both is fine and has my vote hahaha
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Hallelujah to that.
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Insulting humans for being 3-D and being somewhat stronger than a being that can eat time implied bill should be, "at least high 3-A", yes.
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Now Bill is safe from the deadly series of 2-C
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His hax is still 3D, and none of his matches have anything to do with AP so...
No, he isn't.
No, he isn't.
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Chuck still stomps him.
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Eh, I think he'd beat chuck, but lets just get this revision finished before that match.
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Eh, me and ultima agreed chucks fear hax is wanked, but let's just finish this revision first
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Even if it is, bill's resistance wouldn't work on it regardless.
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So, no one disagrees, everyone now agrees.
Guess we wait for azzy or someone else.
Guess we wait for azzy or someone else.
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Can we chuck him a message?
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I mean, I already di. You can bump it if you want (on a phone, can't really get around properly.)
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It's no problem.
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Having it be high 3-A for now would probably be a good short term solutionAntvasima said:
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Short term dude? Nothing you brouth up puts him higher.
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I meant unleas cal has more evidence for low 2-C or something
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well if the universe would sooner or later get destroyed wouldn't that still grant universal dura
but i agree with this, bill gets more potent time hax, accasuality, and MAYBE just maybe universal durability
now is it time to discuss my argument for High 1-C? OVO
but i agree with this, bill gets more potent time hax, accasuality, and MAYBE just maybe universal durability
now is it time to discuss my argument for High 1-C? OVO
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Let's save high 1-C full power for another thread even though full power bill might be 1-B
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Oh ho ho ho I can't wait
HAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHA
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High 1-C has been debunked multiple times though.
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Wait till they see my argument!
Just wait....
Just wait....
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I mean, the reason Bill isn't High 1-C is the same reason Wyrm got downgraded.
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The reason wyrm didn't even get possibly was because of his feats contradicting it
Bill doesn't
Bill doesn't
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I already explain why it wouldn't give dura.
As for tier one, do so on another thread, as that is an unrestricted bill.
As for tier one, do so on another thread, as that is an unrestricted bill.
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