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Gravity Falls downgrade summary

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Ricsi-viragosi said:
So, any other reasons for tier 2?
The Time wish alter the can alter reality not just time proven since it made the infinite pizza

Some evidence for this thread

  • Bill Cipher he stated himself as having a "Multi-Dimensional" make over when he talked with Ford and I have two scans from the real life Journal 3 which is canon material produced by Al
1st

ex Hirsch, the producer of Gravity Falls.


Quick Review of Bill's old reasoning for Low 2-C rating

  • At least Universe level+ (Bill's entrance into the physical universe destroyed and distorted most of its natural laws, such as killing time and bringing inanimate objects to life. His influence will incredibly quickly spread over the universe, allowing him even more complete control than he already has. One-shot the Time Police and Time Baby, who governs space-time. Has outright stated that he has full control over space, matter and time)

Also, the connection between the nightmare realm and the universe caused it's laws to fall apart, and was stated tohat it would eventually destroy it if not stopped.

  • The connection is just a gate to Bill's world nothing more.
  • It has been open without adverse consequences to reality and again it is referred to as a portal
  • So the rip that is from Bill's power and also laws failure not the portal.
  • The counterexample would be Stanley's portal which will alter gravity, however, it seems that how Stanley's design it to work.
Also,

  • about Environmental Destruction, the huge problem about it is that Bill Cipher is unconcerned about it even despite even his range restricted for multiversal travel. I think this highlighted that it is a reach to say that High 3-A but can survive Low 2-C destruction without High-Godly. So, he would have to be 4-D for this.
 
Well that's actually true. Making fun of the humans for being 3D would imply he's 4D, because a 2D wouldn't joke about a being infinitely above him.

But apart from that, infinite pizza is just reality warping isn't it?
 
The image you gave is the reasoning for his 2-A.

I already debunked the old reasoning already in the last thread.

It being Bills power doesn't matter. It's a chain reaction, and not aplicable to AP.

Him being unbothered by it isn't a dura feat, as he lives outside of it, and it being destroyed isn't in an explosion so that he needs dura to survive.

Being 4-D is High 3-A regardless.
 
Also, to explain better why surviving the destruction of reality as he would have isn't a dura feat:

It was not done through a destructive force. By extension, it's not dura that is needed to survive it

It was, insted, done through the laws of reality falling apart. At most you'll give him limited acasuality for it.
 
His hax is still 3D, and none of his matches have anything to do with AP so...

No, he isn't.
 
He has Low Multiversal range, though I don't know if he would be able to use it against Chuck.

Still, you could put Bill against Sauron or something.
 
I mean, I already di. You can bump it if you want (on a phone, can't really get around properly.)
 
Well, I have watched the series, but don't know it in-depth well enough to properly evaluate this. Sorry.
 
well if the universe would sooner or later get destroyed wouldn't that still grant universal dura

but i agree with this, bill gets more potent time hax, accasuality, and MAYBE just maybe universal durability

now is it time to discuss my argument for High 1-C? OVO
 
I already explain why it wouldn't give dura.

As for tier one, do so on another thread, as that is an unrestricted bill.
 
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