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Afaik Luffy doesn't have a set multiplier for his speed amp, meaning that Akuma could match him by turning into Shin Akuma.
 
Afaik Luffy doesn't have a set multiplier for his speed amp, meaning that Akuma could match him by turning into Shin Akuma.
He blitzes people that are equal or faster then him that can use Obs Haki/precog...
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Afaik Luffy doesn't have a set multiplier for his speed amp, meaning that Akuma could match him by turning into Shin Akuma.
His Douriki went from at least matching Blueno's base to base which is 820 to entirely blitzing him with G2 and keeping up with Lucci, whose Douriki is 4000, so.. 5 times speed difference at least? That doesn't include the fact that he not only outpaced Blueno, but thouroughly and entirely blitzed his perception altogether. It starts at 5x based on Douriki (unless Douriki only measures STRENGTH)
 
His Douriki went from at least matching Blueno's base to base which is 820 to entirely blitzing him with G2 and keeping up with Lucci, whose Douriki is 4000, so.. 5 times speed difference at least? That doesn't include the fact that he not only outpaced Blueno, but thouroughly and entirely blitzed his perception altogether. It starts at 5x based on Douriki (unless Douriki only measures STRENGTH)
That isn't accepted (it determines physically so it probably would include speed)
 
That isn't accepted (it means physically so it probably should include speed)
Douriki system isn't accepted for physical multiplies?
What are the standards for speedblitz, then? Is there a lowballed quantity? An estimation? The best we got is Luffy basically being invisible to Blueno when he went gear second.
 
Douriki system isn't accepted for physical multiplies?
Nope... I don't know why. Kingtempest knows about that stuff
What are the standards for speedblitz, then? Is there a lowballed quantity? An estimation? The best we got is Luffy basically being invisible to Blueno when he went gear second.
Well a higher rating saying it blitzes people that you are comparable to 🤔🤷‍♂️
 
Then if their speed is equalized- does SHIN Akuma get a boost high enough to blitz those who can keep up with his base? If not, then Luffy has advantage both in offense and defense.
Akuma's only wincon is landing a Shun Goku Satsu, which isn't very likely.
 
In-verse oneshots and speedblitz aren't accepted for out stats, especially in vs matches, unless there are specific multipliers, since the standards can greatly vary from media to media.
It's the same reason why we don't give 7.5x AP to a character only because they oneshot another, our standards for AP stomps are arbitrarily given to allow us to play the game, and the standards for a speed blitz are even more loose.

So, Luffy being able to blitz comparable characters means the boost is great, but it's not enough to deem it a speedblitz in a vs match.

It just says faster than before which makes no sense 🐵
Why wouldn't make sense?
As Shin, he is faster than his base, but without a set multiplier or feats, we can't be specific.

The only thing we know is that the Shin form gives him a significant boost, since it is the form he takes when he meets a character that can challenge his base form, meaning that Akuma deems them worthy to face his true power.
 
Why wouldn't make sense?
As Shin, he is faster than his base, but without a set multiplier or feats, we can't be specific.

The only thing we know is that the Shin form gives him a significant boost, since it is the form he takes when he meets a character that can challenge his base form, meaning that Akuma deems them worthy to face his true power.
Because other profile uses it differently... For example when it's a different key, for example something like this
Massively Hypersonic+ (Capable of outpacing Blueno), higher with Gear 2nd (Blitzed Blueno. Easily outpaced Rob Lucci)| Massively Hypersonic+ (Faster than before), higher with Gear 2nd (Faster than before)
 
It's just a matter of words tbh, the point is the same, I can easily remove the "worthless" parenthesis if needed.

It isn't a different key, since it's a transformation, not another self.
 
It's just a matter of words tbh, the point is the same, I can easily remove the "worthless" parenthesis if needed.

It isn't a different key, since it's a transformation, not another self.
🤔 well this is my first time seeing (Faster than before) on a transformation
It's just a matter of words tbh, the point is the same, I can easily remove the "worthless" parenthesis if needed.
Didn't understand 🐵
 
Now that I think about it- Human douriki is.. 10? That'd mean the gap between them and LUCCI would be 400x.. Yeah, that doesn't sound right. No wonder it's not accepted-
Humans with weapons... What ever that means 😅
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🤔😲🤯maybe databook or something might explain more in detail
 
Humans with weapons... What ever that means 😅
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🤔😲🤯maybe databook or something might explain more in detail
Looks like a rifle in that marine sillhouette. So a marine carrying a rifle is only 400 weaker than Lucci? Sus

CP9 are city block level at best
 
We determined that the Shun Goku Satsu would kill Luffy, but his haki would allow him to dodge.
It's not just that, but read the match for more details.

Yea i did. That why I posted that cuz "Equalized speed".

So there no way that Haki would allow him to dodge it, unless the speed isn't equalized.
just like Kizaru whos Light and yet couldn't dodge Marco assuming their speed is equal..
 
It wasn't really about the Haki allowing him to dodge with speed, but the ability to predict the future instead.
 
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