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Gotta Revise 'Em All, Part 2: Getting to work
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That's cool
They should still be tier 2
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Huh, I did not know that. That's pretty cool. I still wouldn't say this necessarily warrants multiple keys, but at least there exists a reason for variable power.
Weren't these stated somewhere that they merely ressembled the legit bird trio and that's why they called them the same, rather than being actually related to them?
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Yes seeing how it's a Rayquaza from another dimension
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i meant from an character personality and abilities perspective, i don't think that we can create a profile that is just identical to another hence the tiers
but then again there is this solution:
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I'll type up an example using Rayquaza:
Tier: High 6-A | 2-B, likely 2-A, higher with Mega Evolution
Attack Potency: Multi-Continent level (Superior to Groudon and Kyogre) | Multiverse level, likely Multiverse level+ (Fought and damaged Alternate Dimension Giratina), higher with Mega Evolution (Stronger than its base form)
Key: Standard | Alternate Dimension (Hoopa and the Clash of Ages)
Tier: High 6-A | 2-B, likely 2-A, higher with Mega Evolution
Attack Potency: Multi-Continent level (Superior to Groudon and Kyogre) | Multiverse level, likely Multiverse level+ (Fought and damaged Alternate Dimension Giratina), higher with Mega Evolution (Stronger than its base form)
Key: Standard | Alternate Dimension (Hoopa and the Clash of Ages)
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would the power and abilities be shared or nah? i don't think they should
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Eden_Warlock99
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Ash could be Low 2-C if we go by the varies Creation Trio route
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Not sure tbh
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Stuff from pokédex, yeh.
But as for the powers gained from moves, no unless they showcase them imo.
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then i don't think that it is worth even a key tbh
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The AP difference alone makes it worth a different key
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feels a little weird, but okay then
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by fighting them, and they can still harm arceus so
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Excactly
We don't know how Arceus decrease it's power for a test
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He did not utilize his plates to block any attacks. He doesn't even use his powernull. In fact the only purpose the plates serve when he fights you is to use Judgment change type. That's where it ends. Falling in line with testing the player
NB: The only thing that is low 1C, is the capability of his plates to create and logically tank the destruction of his realm.
His body isn't low 1C.
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him not using hax proves that he is not using his normal attack power because?
he is only using the origin plate actually, he drawing power from it hence the type change, no reason nor proof that he is not not using his normal ap or the plate normal ap
the profile lists him as just low 1-C, his plates can power him up sure, but he is low 1-C with his body, if he isn't the profile should be "x low 1-C when powered up by plates" kinda of a null point tho since he is powered up by then in the fight
it is, see the profile
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Because the only thing that scales to low 1C is creation and destruction, as well as the defense mechanisms of his plates, not Judgment of his other moves
He's not. His hax doesn't scale to low 1C in any capacity. Make a crt to change that.
I made the CRT with the proposed changes yes. The only thing that scales to Low 1C durability is if he utilizes the defense mechanisms of his plates when they're assimilated inside of him, and not the crap he did in JOL by removing them. He does not use in PLA as he's testing the player.
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his physical defense is low 1-C
when did i talked about hax?
1 that is not what it is said in the profile, the justification does not even mention the plates, rather it talks about arceus himself
2 they were inside of him, the origin plate don't forget it
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It's not. The defense capabilities of his plates are, which he never used even once
Then what makes The player low 1C?
Nothing
The Legend plates are inside him ≠ He used anything remotely low 1C in tbe fight. Nothing scales to low 1C, besides
1. Creation feat
2. Destruction
3. Defensive capabilities
None of which the player interacted with in any capacity. And it's wrong, Arceus himself is not Low 1C. I'll recommend you go back and read the proposals
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yes it is, read the profile
the fact that arceus is low 1-C even in defense?? it is in the profile
the default assumption is that he used normally, you would need evidence that he didn't
1 and 2 then why is he low 1-C in the profile while not even citing the plates in the justification?
3 any proof that he didn't use this in the fight
and i recommend you to go read the profile
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It's simple. Because of the nature of the plates in PLA and its function as described within it, does not include nor imply the usage of a defensive mechanism of any sot
Or do you presume everyone who fights your Arceus is low 1C?
Prove it
The proposal does not match up to what is on the profile.
It's the fault of whoever placed it there. That means we're not going to make the player low 1C. The profile just needs to be clear
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I mean, Arceus has low 1-C striking strength on his profile. So you might want to make a thread to fix that.
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I didn't finish typing lol
The entire reason why he nearly died in JOL was because of his terrible lifting strength
***** who edited those inside.
The entire reason why he nearly died in JOL was because of his terrible lifting strength
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Sniper670
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People think the reason Arceus nearly died was because the meteorite harmed him. Nope
The Shockwave from the meteorite Overpowered his hold over the plates, knocking them away, and upon losing the plates, he nearly died because Arceus with 0 plates is a dead one
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