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Uh huh, sureThis is definitely just 9-A at max
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Uh huh, sureThis is definitely just 9-A at max
Girafarig is already considered middle-stage so idk what to tell you. This is nothing newThat's the argument? Then I immensely disagree with it, middle-stage Pokémon shouldn't be 7-B without actual proof.
How’s this makeshift Ash profile?I've been binging m the anime and I will say this. It's impossible to get proper scaling.
Scaling is wild, it fluctuates heavily
If you disagree, then it's best to just delete most Pokémon and keep the ones with more than one episode and just a pokedex entry in terms of their appearance in the series . Because you'll not find a proper scaling for most of the wild Pokémon.
Trainer mons is fine however
Scaling for wild Pokémon is way too wack in the anime tbhNah I'm gonna make profiles for them
Some of his Pokemon in certain seasons aren't the same tier, so I suggest working on profiles for all his individual Pokemon before even starting on Ash's tiering
WHy is girafarig 7-AI see no reason why we would consider Girafarig to be a special case compared to other middle stages, so if it’s 7-A, the other middle stages should be as well.
Its considered a 1st stage pokemon due to only having one evolutionWHy is girafarig 7-A
so?Its considered a 1st stage pokemon due to only having one evolution
Why is Girafarig first stage because it only has 1 evolution? How do you know Pokemon with only 1 evolution are comparable to Pokemon who are first staged? There needs to be some kind of confirmation, like a feat from a Pokedex or twoSo it would be 7-A Is that not what was agreed on? High 7-C Baby pokemon, Low 7-B Basic, 7-A First Stage, and High 7-A Second Stage?
Upscaling from Cleffa's 8-A+ durability feat, Pichu's and Elekid's capacity to learn Thunder, and Magby's capacity to learn Sunny DayWhy are baby Pokemon high 7-C?
OkUpscaling from Cleffa's 8-A+ durability feat, Pichu's and Elekid's capacity to learn Thunder, and Magby's capacity to learn Sunny Day
This is quite literally not feasibleSome of his Pokemon in certain seasons aren't the same tier, so I suggest working on profiles for all his individual Pokemon before even starting on Ash's tiering
It is. I think not doing individual profiles for Ash's pokemon would make the Ash profile incompleteThis is quite literally not feasible
It’s 1/10th as powerful as Farigiraf, which is High 7-A by scaling to other fully evolved Pokémon.WHy is girafarig 7-A
Not only am I not gonna be the one to bother with that, but at the end of a journey, Ash’s Pokémon in that respective season are around the level depicted on his profileIt is. I think not doing individual profiles for Ash's pokemon would make the Ash profile incomplete
Proof of all of them being that tier? Some of his Pokemon are just a lot stronger than the other ones on his team during certain seasons. And again that would make the profile pretty incompleteNot only am I not gonna be the one to bother with that, but at the end of a journey, Ash’s Pokémon in that respective season are around the level depicted on his profile
That's why I think making individual profiles is much better, then for each key its "his pokemon are from this tier to this tier". We do something similar for Squall's second last key. I can make profiles for some of Ash's individual Pokemon, just the P&A section for nowA lot of Ash's Pokemon do have a strength disparity of some degree, yes. However, even though I'm not a big anime fan, and as such, not the best qualified in bringing this up, Ash own's well over 70 pokemon. That would be a ludicrous number of Profiles that could instead be treated as Key's for the sake of the profiles (IE Kalos Pikachu Key, Greninja Key, Ash Greninja Key, etc (Just a example)). I also doubt that they differ too much in physical stats compared to one another in the grand scheme of things- Or rather, I doubt that a good majority aren't at least relative.
That's the argument for freaking 7-C Baby Pokémon? Then I strongly disagree, I'm to call a mod here to stop this madness without actual proof.Upscaling from Cleffa's 8-A+ durability feat, Pichu's and Elekid's capacity to learn Thunder, and Magby's capacity to learn Sunny Day
All his team members for each team (with some exceptions like JN Greninja) are relative to one another. They often fight opponents that can harm the others.Proof of all of them being that tier? Some of his Pokemon are just a lot stronger than the other ones on his team during certain seasons. And again that would make the profile pretty incomplete
Not true, this is definitely just a lazy assumption. If you want the profile to not be incomplete, you should explain the scaling and featsAll his team members for each team (with some exceptions like JN Greninja) are relative to one another. They often fight opponents that can harm the others.
Do you have any actual proof against this though? Personal beliefs aren’t enough to grab a staff memberThat's the argument for freaking 7-C Baby Pokémon? Then I strongly disagree, I'm to call a mod here to stop this madness without actual proof.
@Antvasima
Responding to an actual argument with just “no” is not gonna convince anyone. The only major exceptions to this are Pikachu in each series and Greninja in Journeys. We’re not making a bunch of profiles for something as unnecessary as this.Not true, this is definitely just a lazy assumption. If you want the profile to not be incomplete, you should explain the scaling and feats
You didn't prove your claim, why do I have to? That's a weird double standard. You also used personal beliefsResponding to an actual argument with just “no” is not gonna convince anyone. The only major exceptions to this are Pikachu in each series and Greninja in Journeys. We’re not making a bunch of profiles for something as unnecessary as this.
Both of you need to actually substantiate your claims instead of arguing from nothing but personal beliefs
Example 1: At the Unova League, Ash’s Snivy was able to do noticeable damage to Cameron’s newly-evolved Lucario, which could also match and eventually defeat Pikachu. Even Unfezant could take multiple hits from that Riolu, which was able to fight said SnivyYou didn't prove your claim, why do I have to? That's a weird double standard. You also used personal beliefs
Cleffa’s feat is 8-C iirc and I’m not really sure about the other twoUpscaling from Cleffa's 8-A+ durability feat, Pichu's and Elekid's capacity to learn Thunder, and Magby's capacity to learn Sunny Day
i personally dont really see the problem with stuff like this, no reason for weather related moves to be thousands of times stronger than the rest of any given pokemons attacksMy main issue with using weather moves is that they’re not really combat applicable. That is to say, they aren’t direct attacks
That's how all weather feats are though.My main issue with using weather moves is that they’re not really combat applicable. That is to say, they aren’t direct attacks
Kyogre left the chatMy main issue with using weather moves is that they’re not really combat applicable. That is to say, they aren’t direct attacks
Nope, not by level up, at least.Can any baby Pokémon learn Rain Dance? Because by this logic, they’d be Low 7-B to 7-B
?i know about the weather moves but what 8-A+ dura feat are you referring to