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Gotta Revise 'Em All, Part 2: Getting to work

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Don't fully agree with that calc because it doesn't factor in Reshiram being able to scorch the earth as a whole either
 
I will not be adding Frosmoth's feat. It's not relevant to the scaling because Frosmoth would scale to final-evolved Pokemon, which are High 7-A.
 
Spinoirr said:

Dracovish​

ShieldIts mighty legs are capable of running at speeds exceeding 40 mph, but this Pokémon can't breathe unless it's underwater.

Copperajah​

ShieldThese Pokémon live in herds. Their trunks have incredible grip strength, strong enough to crush giant rocks into powder.

Gigantamax Copperajah​

SwordSo much power is packed within its trunk that if it were to unleash that power, the resulting blast could level mountains and change the landscape.
ShieldAfter this Pokémon has Gigantamaxed, its massive nose can utterly demolish large structures with a single smashing blow.

Cufant​

SwordIt digs up the ground with its trunk. It's also very strong, being able to carry loads of over five tons without any problem at all.

Frosmoth​

ShieldIt shows no mercy to any who desecrate fields and mountains. It will fly around on its icy wings, causing a blizzard to chase offenders away.

Gigantamax Grimmsnarl​

SwordBy transforming its leg hair, this Pokémon delivers power-packed drill kicks that can bore huge holes in Galar's terrain.
ShieldGigantamax energy has caused more hair to sprout all over its body. With the added strength, it can jump over the world's tallest building.

Gigantamax Centiskorch​

ShieldThe heat that comes off a Gigantamax Centiskorch may destabilize air currents. Sometimes it can even cause storms.

Toxtricity​

SwordCapable of generating 15,000 volts of electricity, this Pokémon looks down on all that would challenge it.

Gigantamax Toxtricity​

SwordIts excessive electric energy is its weapon. This Pokémon can build up more electricity than any thundercloud.

Barraskewda​

ShieldIt spins its tail fins to propel itself, surging forward at speeds of over 100 knots before ramming prey and spearing into them.

Sandaconda​

SwordWhen it contracts its body, over 220 pounds of sand sprays from its nose. If it ever runs out of sand, it becomes disheartened.

Gigantamax Sandaconda​

SwordIts sand pouch has grown to tremendous proportions. More than 1,000,000 tons of sand now swirl around its body.
ShieldSand swirls around its body with such speed and power that it could pulverize a skyscraper.

Silicobra​

SwordAs it digs, it swallows sand and stores it in its neck pouch. The pouch can hold more than 17 pounds of sand.

Carkol​

ShieldBy rapidly rolling its legs, it can travel at over 18 mph. The temperature of the flames it breathes exceeds 1,800 degrees Fahrenheit.

Boltund​

ShieldIt sends electricity through its legs to boost their strength. Running at top speed, it easily breaks 50 mph.

Gigantamax Drednaw​

ShieldIn the Galar region, there's a tale about this Pokémon chewing up a mountain and using the rubble to stop a flood.

Gigantamax Corviknight​

SwordImbued with Gigantamax energy, its wings can whip up winds more forceful than any a hurricane could muster. The gusts blow everything away.

Inteleon​

ShieldIts nictitating membranes let it pick out foes' weak points so it can precisely blast them with water that shoots from its fingertips at Mach 3.

Gigantamax Inteleon​

SwordGigantamax Inteleon's Water Gun move fires at Mach 7. As the Pokémon takes aim, it uses the crest on its head to gauge wind and temperature.
ShieldIt has excellent sniping skills. Shooting a berry rolling along over nine miles away is a piece of cake for this Pokémon.

Gigantamax Cinderace​

ShieldGigantamax energy can sometimes cause the diameter of this Pokémon's fireball to exceed 300 feet.

Gigantamax Rillaboom​

ShieldRillaboom has become one with its forest of drums and continues to lay down beats that shake all of Galar.
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Thelastmlg said:
the higher the controversy, the higher the feat, high risk high reward

looking for some random entries if they are worthy:

lanturn: The light it emits is so bright that it can illuminate the sea’s surface from a depth of over three miles.

wishiwashi: When it’s in a jam, its shining eyes attract others of its kind. The light from its eyes is visible almost 25 miles away.

espurr: It has enough psychic energy to blast everything within 300 feet of itself, but it has no control over its power.

whiscash: If WHISCASH goes on a wild rampage, it sets off a quake-like tremor with a radius of over three miles. This POKéMON has the ability to predict real earthquakes. (intimidates pokemon and people felt it too)
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Calyrex​

ShieldLegend says that by using its power to see all events from past to future, this Pokémon saved the creatures of a forest from a meteorite strike.

ShieldIt’s said that this Pokémon once moved a large forest—and all the Pokémon living there—to a new location overnight.

Regieleki​

ShieldIts entire body is made up of a single organ that generates electrical energy. Regieleki is capable of creating all Galar’s electricity.

Gigantamax Urshifu Single Strike Style​

ShieldThe energy released by this Pokémon's fists forms shock waves that can blow away Dynamax Pokémon in just one hit.

Eternatus​

SwordThe core on its chest absorbs energy emanating from the lands of the Galar region. This energy is what allows Eternatus to stay active.
ShieldIt was inside a meteorite that fell 20,000 years ago. There seems to be a connection between this Pokémon and the Dynamax phenomenon.

Eternamax Eternatus​

SwordAs a result of Rose's meddling, Eternatus absorbed all the energy in the Galar region. It's now in a state of power overload.
ShieldInfinite amounts of energy pour from this Pokémon's enlarged core, warping the surrounding space-time.

Dragapult​

SwordWhen it isn't battling, it keeps Dreepy in the holes on its horns. Once a fight starts, it launches the Dreepy like supersonic missiles.
ShieldApparently the Dreepy inside Dragapult's horns eagerly look forward to being launched out at Mach speeds.

Drakloak​

SwordIt's capable of flying faster than 120 mph. It battles alongside Dreepy and dotes on them until they successfully evolve

Gigantamax Duraludon​

ShieldThe hardness of its cells is exceptional, even among Steel types. It also has a body structure that's resistant to earthquakes.
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WeeklyBattles said:
Alright thats Gen 1 done. Updating the game feats list:

Baby Pokemon:
  • Cleffa falling from space: 8-C
Basic Pokemon:
First Stage Pokemon:
  • Magneton turning up the heat: 8-A+
Second Stage Pokemon:
Mega Pokemon:
G-max Pokemon:
  • Gigantamax Venusaur's Volcanic Eruption: 7-B
Unsorted/Unsourced feats:
  • Magikarp survive the explosion that vaporized the lake. using the sizes from PLA you could get high 8-C to 8-B results
  • 8-C feat by magby vaporizing a pond
  • Pikachu Catastropika being Low 7-C
  • High 7-C Pupitar toppling feat which is technically Low 7-B cause after checking things out it was not topple but destroy in the og translation
  • At least Low 7-B feat by G-max Copperajah (mountain busting)
  • 7-B feat by G-max Rillaboom (shaking all Galar)
  • 7-A feat by Gigalith (i got blowing away a mountain accepted at at least baseline 7-A)
  • 7-A Defog feat

What might need calcs:
Charizard melting boulders
Gigantamax Blastoise blasting holes in mountains
Gigantamax Butterfree making tornados that can blow away 10 ton trucks
Pidgeot creating powerful wind storms
Pikachu creating lightning storms
Poliwrath pulverizing large boulders
Seadra creating whirlpools
Gengar dropping room temperature by 10F
Gyrados destroying cities and razing mountains
Articuno cooling the local atmosphere by flying
Zapdos creating violent thunderstorms
Dragonair casually altering the weather
Mega Mewtwo Y pulverizing a skycraper by thinking
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I looked through all of these feats, and they're all either of the following:
  • Not strong enough to be relevant for scaling (most of these feats)
  • Too vague (i.e. Dragonair altering the weather)
  • Have some sort of caveat (i.e. Pikachu's storm feat only being possible when multiple Pikachu gather)
  • Have been rejected (this is mainly for Eternamax Eternatus, as the "infinite amounts of energy" statement was rejected as a statement for High 3-A Eternamax Eternatus which is a rejection I disagree with but oh well)
 
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CloverDragon03 said:
Would this mean mid-stage Pokemon become 7-A?

Then an average three-stage Pokemon with a Mega Evolution would have something like:
At most Low 7-B | 7-A | High 7-A | 6-C
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Nah, that dex entry for the moment should only be taken as scaling just for Farigiraf, there's not proof to say that other mid-stage evolutions are ten times more powerful than their first evolution.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Agree with 7-A mid stages for being the same as Farigiraf.
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Farigiraf is still a special case, as it's an evolution of a Pokémon that was already mid-stage evolution level, and its dex entry explicitly says that it's ten times more powerful than Girafarig because the two brains of the previous evolution fused together, lumping mid-stage evolutions in the same category as Farigiraf without evidence is incredibly misleading. So I immensely disagree with giving mid-stage evolutions 7-A tier just because Farigiraf would probably be that level.
 
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Only issue i got with the blog is that it says "canon split" and that the three medis are separate canons.

They aren't, what was split was cross-scaling species between medias, they are still canon to each other as the vreation trio scales to the feats in those medias.

Might br a minor issue but mighg also mislead readers
 
TheGreatMaster12 said:
Farigiraf is still a special case, as it's an evolution of a Pokémon that was already mid-stage evolution level, and its dex entry explicitly says that it's ten times more powerful than Girafarig because the two brains of the previous evolution fused together, lumping mid-stage evolutions in the same category as Farigiraf without evidence is incredibly misleading. So I immensely disagree with giving mid-stage evolutions 7-A tier just because Farigiraf would probably be that level.
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Doesn't really matter. Single stage Pokemon, especially earlier game ones, are typically scaled to middle-stage Pokemon (yes I know Girafarig isn't fully-evolved anymore, but it used to be)
 
CloverDragon03 said:
Doesn't really matter. Single stage Pokemon, especially earlier game ones, are typically scaled to middle-stage Pokemon (yes I know Girafarig isn't fully-evolved anymore, but it used to be)
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So you're just agreeing with my point? As you're admitting that Girafarig is already middle-stage Pokémon level, meaning that middle-stage Pokémon can't scale to Farigiraf.
 
TheGreatMaster12 said:
So you're just agreeing with my point? As you're admitting that Girafarig is already middle-stage Pokémon level, meaning that middle-stage Pokémon can't scale to Farigiraf.
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Middle-stage Pokemon scale to the same value. If you're saying Girafarig is already a middle-stage Pokemon, you're saying it's on the same level as other middle-stage Pokemon, which would now be 7-A
 
Thelastmlg said:
Only issue i got with the blog is that it says "canon split" and that the three medis are separate canons.

They aren't, what was split was cross-scaling species between medias, they are still canon to each other as the vreation trio scales to the feats in those medias.

Might br a minor issue but mighg also mislead readers
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It's essentially a canon split as far as I'm concerned. If they're all canon to each other, why can't you cross-scale?
 
CloverDragon03 said:
It's essentially a canon split as far as I'm concerned. If they're all canon to each other, why can't you cross-scale?
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I mean, those things are different, being canon just means they are in the same cosmology, cross scaling just means a pikachu in the manga can't be assumed to be as strong as one in the games or anime
 
Because Girafarig is 1/10 as strong as Farigiraf, and Girafarig is considered middle-stage (even by your own admission)
 
It's concerning that I legit have no idea what we should be doing from here. But, I do have some questions about Ayewale's blog:
  1. "There is no 'average' nor 'universal' rating for first, second or third stage Pokemon. Assigning them a tier on the grounds of 'should be comparable to other first-stage pokemon' does not make for an acceptable profile." Why is this the case? Generally, the stage of a Pokémon's evolution is considered relative to all other Pokémon of that stage, whether that be due to those kinds of Pokémon being the ones present at certain points in the games, or the manga and anime showing such evolution as a progression of strength that most follow (with exceptions being few, such as Ash's Pikachu). Baby Pokémon match other baby Pokémon, first-stage Pokémon match other first-stage Pokémon, same goes for second-stage and third-stage Pokémon. This CRT as a whole has also kinda dismissed this point, which makes me think it's not really a thing anymore, and honestly, I hope that's the case. Honestly speaking, this rule does nothing to benefit the Pokémon scaling and its only purpose seems to be to make an already convoluted subject even more needlessly convoluted.
  2. "The in-game pokedex entries can be assumed to be the same across different canons." So... Most things don't change? It's mainly just the 3-C to High 3-A legendaries whose scaling gets affected by this? Because the Low 7-B, 7-A (from Girafarig), High 7-A, Low 6-B, 6-B, High 6-A, etc. stuff doesn't really change since it comes from Pokedex entries. I think the only other thing that changes is some 5-B scaling from Grand Meteor Delta. Just want to make sure I have this right.
 
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I definitely agree that we should continue scaling evolution stages to each other.
CloverDragon03 said:
It's concerning that I legit have no idea what we should be doing from here.
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Well, we know what each stage scales to in AP and speed(?), I believe we just need for several LS calcs to be evaluated and then to figure out where some Legendaries scale.
 
I put my superblog in the evaluations thread but haven't received any evaluations so far
 
CloverDragon03 said:
The in-game pokedex entries can be assumed to be the same across different canons." So... Most things don't change? It's mainly just the 3-C to High 3-A legendaries whose scaling gets affected by this? Because the Low 7-B, 7-A (from Girafarig), High 7-A, Low 6-B, 6-B, High 6-A, etc. stuff doesn't really change since it comes from Pokedex entries. I think the only other thing that changes is some 5-B scaling from Grand Meteor Delta. Just want to make sure I have this right.
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This was literally said in the og thread, yep. The revision affects mostly the legendaries, and what it does is take out the distinct abilities that aren't showcased anywhere else except within their own series (like manga Pikachu using substitute to bypass psychic walls and puppeteer it and even canalize attacks remotely; that's exclusive to the manga)
 
LephyrTheRevanchist said:
This was literally said in the og thread, yep. The revision affects mostly the legendaries, and what it does is take out the distinct abilities that aren't showcased anywhere else except within their own series (like manga Pikachu using substitute to bypass psychic walls and puppeteer it and even canalize attacks remotely; that's exclusive to the manga)
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What really happened is that we won't scale manga wild Pikachu to anime wild Pikachu or game wild pikachu
 
I've been binging m the anime and I will say this. It's impossible to get proper scaling.


Scaling is wild, it fluctuates heavily

If you disagree, then it's best to just delete most Pokémon and keep the ones with more than one episode and just a pokedex entry in terms of their appearance in the series . Because you'll not find a proper scaling for most of the wild Pokémon.

Trainer mons is fine however
 
Sniper670 said:
I've been binging m the anime and I will say this. It's impossible to get proper scaling.


Scaling is wild, it fluctuates heavily

If you disagree, then it's best to just delete most Pokémon and keep the ones with more than one episode and just a pokedex entry in terms of their appearance in the series . Because you'll not find a proper scaling for most of the wild Pokémon.

Trainer mons is fine however
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Nah I'm gonna make profiles for them
 
trying my hardest to ignore the meowth abuse, **** your writers, where the **** is the comedy??? How am i supposed to search for feats and enjoy the series if meowth abuse happens completely out of nowhere and for no reason? Go **** yourselfs

Eyeballing it, if it is pretty deep, i think this could be city block level or so, though i wouldn't call it a light tap since he was falling and spinning, might just be the animation speed
 
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