Gotta Revise 'Em All, Part 2: Getting to work

[Armorchompy]

Also I think Mew is definitely considered to be at least equal in power to fully evolved Pokémon given he can learn the likes of Hyper Beam and Giga Impact, which is actually a pretty good way to scale featless legendaries to fully evolved 'mons now that I think about it.

Although, there is the grey area of Pokémon like Piloswine or Lickitung who used to be fully evolved but then received a further evo.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Also I think Mew is definitely considered to be at least equal in power to fully evolved Pokémon given he can learn the likes of Hyper Beam and Giga Impact, which is actually a pretty good way to scale featless legendaries to fully evolved 'mons now that I think about it.

Although, there is the grey area of Pokémon like Piloswine or Lickitung who used to be fully evolved but then received a further evo.

Porygon, Dratini, Larvitar and bunch of other non-evolve Pkmn learn it (by level up). So nah.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

I was suggesting we could split the work and take on different types instead of leaving it all to one guy


Also please don't make normal Pokemon above tier 6 Rayquaza needs to go mega just to stop a planet busting meteor it wouldn't make any sense if a pidgeot could stroll up to it and vaporize it

Deoxys destroying a planet doesn't really limit it to planetary though, otherwise Dialga's regular attacks would be tier 9

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Most likely a bit feat but still good to have, especially since bug pokemon are usually considered weaker than most

I could survive a meteor like that, that is trash

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I could survive a meteor like that, that is trash

Scan?

 

[Armorchompy]

Deoxys destroying a planet doesn't really limit it to planetary though

People didn't know Deoxys was in the meteor and they still thought Rayquaza was necessary (plus Deoxys wasn't actually trying to destroy the planet using the meteor, that's just how it travels, I don't even think he was the one providing the force behind it i think it was just a meteor)

 

[XXKINGXX69]

People didn't know Deoxys was in the meteor

Can you send a clip I'm lazy to rewatch it

 

[Armorchompy]

i'm lazy to find it : )

 

[XXKINGXX69]

There are Pokemon in game that can defeat Deoxys and Rayquaza anyway, so I think they were underestimating themselves or its just a destructive capacity thing

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Just using ,

Most likely a bit feat but still good to have, especially since bug pokemon are usually considered weaker than most

~10% of skorupi's pokedex height as pure guesswork (3 cm radius) and 12km/s I got 9-A KE

So no, KING, you wouldn't survive that

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

There are Pokemon in game that can defeat Deoxys and Rayquaza anyway, so I think they were underestimating themselves or its just a destructive capacity thing

Only trained 'mons from protagonist ever interact with them.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Only trained 'mons from protagonist ever interact with them.

Yeah that's what I meant, and the protags themselves are thought to be unable to destroy the meteor, so its just lack of DC or them underestimating. There are Pokemon that have attacks with enough force to flip the world

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Yeah that's what I meant, and the protags themselves are thought to be unable to destroy the meteor, so its just lack of DC or them underestimating. There are Pokemon that have attacks with enough force to flip the world

Yeah, the protags would scale. But for now we are fixing wild 'mons. That's what Armor is saying. These guys do not scale to that feat in anyway shape or form.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Yeah, the protags would scale. But for now we are fixing wild 'mons. That's what Armor is saying. These guys do not scale to that feat in anyway shape or form.

My point was that the meteor shouldn't be used as an anti feat

Just using ,

~10% of skorupi's pokedex height as pure guesswork (3 cm radius) and 12km/s I got 9-A KE

So no, KING, you wouldn't survive that

Can you make a blog? A meteor going at 12km/s would make a bigger impact than that

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Can you make a blog? A meteor going at 12km/s would make a bigger impact than that

Can't. No pixelscale nor anything. I only made it as pure guesswork. But considering the meteorite was around same size as skorupi's head (excluding the head pincers) it would indeed be around the 9-A mark. Probably higher than what I got (49.6 megajoules).

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

If someone wants to calc it using proper pixelscaling and all, here's an image from Pkmn Snap with a fully extended Skorupi.

 

[Sniper670]

Also, Draco Meteor summons comets. A quick search on Google

Because of the comet's high orbital eccentricity, 0.9951, and inclination, 89.43°, the impact velocity would be 52.9 km (32.9 miles) per second. The resulting impact energy is equivalent to 4.4 billion megatons of TNT.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Also, Draco Meteor summons comets. A quick search on Google

Not the same comets from space

 

[Sniper670]

Not the same comets from space

They're the same.

Comets are summoned down from the sky onto the target. The recoil from this move lowers the user’s offensive stats.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Also, Draco Meteor summons comets. A quick search on Google

Unfortunately, due to their size when portrayed in-game and a comet's overall low density when compared to meteors, it would only get around tier 7, and I doubt it would go beyond 7-B.

 

[Sniper670]

Anyway, here's the move animation



Plus, it takes less than 10 seconds to do it

 

[Sniper670]

Unfortunately, due to their size when portrayed in-game and a comet's overall low density when compared to meteors, it would only get around tier 7, and I doubt it would go beyond 7-B.

Welp. that's still something . Some 1st stage Pokémon can use it as well

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Welp. that's still something . Some 1st stage Pokémon can use it as well

That is very true.

Incidentally, using this image I got 8-A results (559 tons) for a single comet. Although idk if we are allowed to multiply by the number of attacks. Have seen it sometimes accepted, sometimes rejected.

Still, another 8-A feat potentially for first stages.

 

[Emerald]

Can we use Generations, Origins and Twilight Wing to scale the games?
Considering they are just animated versions of the events that happened in the games

 

[Thelastmlg]

You can't really do that without warping space for thousands of light years

You can because it doesn't imply they do so, the starry sky is literally above us and "opening it" or "making it visible" doesn't immediatelly imply warping space until you reach other stars, it just makes it more visible

 

[Sniper670]

Can we use Generations, Origins and Twilight Wing to scale the games?
Considering they are just animated versions of the events that happened in the games

Seperate keys for all adaptation anime.

 

[Sniper670]

That is very true.

Incidentally, using this image I got 8-A results (559 tons) for a single comet. Although idk if we are allowed to multiply by the number of attacks. Have seen it sometimes accepted, sometimes rejected.

Still, another 8-A feat potentially for first stages.

Nice. I'll be looking into the moves for more feats

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

That is very true.

Incidentally, using this image I got 8-A results (559 tons) for a single comet. Although idk if we are allowed to multiply by the number of attacks. Have seen it sometimes accepted, sometimes rejected.

Still, another 8-A feat potentially for first stages.

Accidentally used the diameter instead of the radius for the comet. It's actually around 70 tons using that image (8-B).

However, using this one I got 345 tons (8-A).

Found it curious how Tropius and Wailmer have same exact height, lol.

 

[Thelastmlg]

NECK

 

[Emerald]

For speed, are they still going to be FTL cause of the Golem calc?

 

[XXKINGXX69]

You can because it doesn't imply they do so, the starry sky is literally above us and "opening it" or "making it visible" doesn't immediatelly imply warping space until you reach other stars, it just makes it more visible

How is it possible to make the starry sky visible by warping a little bit of space? it would have to encompass the space between stars

Seperate keys for all adaptation anime.

Those are stated to be taking place in the game

Accidentally used the diameter instead of the radius for the comet. It's actually around 70 tons using that image (8-B).

However, using this one I got 345 tons (8-A).

Found it curious how Tropius and Wailmer have same exact height, lol.

I told you why you can't use 12km/s, if it was it would have a bigger impact. Pokemon meteors are just weird

 

[Thelastmlg]

How is it possible to make the starry sky visible by warping a little bit of space? it would have to encompass the space between stars

i think the fact the starry sky is literally above us and is only not visible due to stuff on earth not letting us see it's light, should anwser that, again, it never said that the starry sky is close or anything, just "visible", extremely broad.

 

[Ayewale]

Unfortunately, due to their size when portrayed in-game and a comet's overall low density when compared to meteors, it would only get around tier 7, and I doubt it would go beyond 7-B.

The goal isn’t to hit any specific rating, it’s to get literally anything. Since most Pokédex entries aren’t filled with scaling information, getting ratings from moves like draco meteor and sunny day are greatly appreciated even if they strictly aren’t all that high.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

The goal isn’t to hit any specific rating, it’s to get literally anything. Since most Pokédex entries aren’t filled with scaling information, getting ratings from moves like draco meteor and sunny day are greatly appreciated even if they strictly aren’t all that high.

See the comment I was responding to again.

 

[Ayewale]

See the comment I was responding to again.

Yeah, yeah, I'm just clarifying things.

 

[Sniper670]

Anyway. In the anime, Beheeyem created a dream world where officer Jenny physically broke into

And the Dream world was 1:1 the universe with stars and all. Outlier?

 

[Sniper670]

Jenny Physically breaking into the dream

Part 2

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Oh yeah, maybe we can finally get around to scaling trainers to their pokemon given that almost every named trainer in the franchise has either fought pokemon themselves or withstood attacks from pokemon

 

[LordTracer]

Oh yeah, maybe we can finally get around to scaling trainers to their pokemon given that almost every named trainer in the franchise has either fought pokemon themselves or withstood attacks from pokemon

I’m pretty sure that was something that was agreed upon, but never actually applied.

Just like trainers scaling to legendaries

 

[Ayewale]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Ayewale/sandbox @Antvasima here is a mockup of what future Pokemon profiles would look like. I wanted to get some of your input on it.