i never said no human scales, i was talking about how not all human scales, in legends Arceus they are considered a serious problem, sides the modern times have common pokemon trainers, why do you think most games do not allow the player to explore unless he has a pokemon with him?
helpless as in, they can't just brute force their way out to flee
That's a pretty ridiculous way to look at it considering... They were still taking those hits pretty damn well, once again including a Cosmog explosion at point-blank
they never stop treating them that way, never
so all examples of humans scaling to pokemon is cases where they are hard working trainers who train themselves? yeah, as i have said earlier, that's the point, and as you said, Akari/Rei have feats that show that they wouldn't scale to other humans at all, and the likes of Bea obviously also wouldn't, i will ask again, do we have a consistent display that shows that Humans scale to Pokemon as you are saying it has? if it is just small moments with only short few chars.......then it wouldn't be what i call consistent
so using them as examples as you were is not accurate as they are "special"
Lillie was literally terified without having anything to do against them, by your logic she should be able to do that without them at all
yet the entire point of the story is that Pokemon are extremely dangerous for humans? as shown with Bea, humans eventually being able to somewhat compete with pokemon is possible, so some humans being able to do that is not out of the park, do you remember how in nearly every game people do not even allow you to get in tall grass because they are afraid of what might happen if a wild pokemon attacks you? weird if you can supposedly tank their attacks with no problem like the examples you gave do
yet one of your examples is a child who tanked attacks from the literal god inverse?.....i don't think i follow
that is assuming that the level they are already is not considered "strong", btw you can also find third stage mons in the first area of legends arceus, so Akari/Rei would scale from 6-C fromt he begining......so yeah, if you want to make all humans the same level as third level mons(since humans can harm eachother) then i guess you could try that, doesn't make much sense to me seem as leser levels would still be a threat
humans are shown to be able to harm other humans in the series......if he scales to them in Dura, they would in AP, and as such they should be able to fight back
I mean bears, wolves, and boars were considered dangerous in our world. I would argue it is portrayed more similarly to the danger of a wild animals I mean they're stronger than humans but it's not as if people run away in terror if someone sends a Yanma out of their pokeball. Besides bewear's pokedex entry and maybe others I forgot most pokedex entries that mention pokemon killing people don't imply they use of brute force and bewear's backbreaking is likely reliant on pressure which technically different from the norm. It's not outright stated Pokémon aren't able to easily kill humans that is still probably the case for several strong species of Pokémon, but a level 5 ratatta is seemingly more a nuisance than anything.
If that's the case then not letting kids go out in the grass when it has nothing but weak Pidgey's and Rattata seems a little excessive.
There is no reason to assume that Elio/Selene, a normal kid with zero evidence of training or having superhuman genetics or anything like that, is millions of times stronger than a normal human in the verse. Bea, Black Belts and the like have gone through extensive explicit training and Rei/Akari have some ridiculous Accelerated Development, Elio/Selene on the other hand have no given reason to be more durable than average. Not to mention said fighters have consistently fully-evolved scaling while the normal 11 year old only has early route bird scaling.
???? Are you saying that an 11 year old girl with an extremely troubled life watching her companion get bullied by wild birds on a creaking bridge shouldn’t be scared? Hell a lot of people become terrified from much less (cough cough spiders).
Again, there’s a huge difference between “this wild animal could cause heavy damage if it roughs you up enough” and “this wild animal would literally turn you into bloody paste if it so much as rams into you”. Why are you assuming the latter when everyone’s worries could just as easily be the former, especially when you compare things to the real world?
I’m trying to say that even with their crazy potential and potentially above average strength at the start, they’re still Low 7-B just like the completely normal human that is the Alola protag. Elio/Selene have zero reason to be “superhuman” and beginning of game Rei/Akari could go either way, yet both of then are Low 7-B at the start. This shows that both a seemingly completely normal human and a maybe above average human are both Low 7-B, meaning either both are above average or neither of them are. Since Elio/Selene have zero reason to be and Rei/Akari have no real evidence in favour of either side (assuming I’m not wrong about the entry trial thing in the next point), on top of nobody treating either of their level of durability as abnormal, the more logical assumption is that Low 7-B is a normal level of durability for a human. This is especially so when compared to the real world, as the early route Pokémon like Spearow and Starly are treated much like their real-life counterparts when it comes to the harm they can inflict on humans.
From what I can remember you can only encounter third stage mons after the entry trial, where you’re limited to the starting area with only early route Pokémon.
Children are stupid, they're basically going "hey, my kid is just rushing toward that flock of geese, that's probably bad."
Since we're bringing this back, I'd like to ask if there's any reason for Elio/Selene to not be an average human
doesn't the humans of Legends Arceus consider Pokemon way too dangerous to even approach or something? i remember a statement like that
Unless, it's the riding gear, I guess they arguably have a feat of surviving being on Tauros when it smashes rocks on the field?
