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It's better, since he created a new martial art technique to counter it which is even better.
And goku copied the kamehameha, hakai, destructo disk, solar flare, the 8 arm thingie [not too sure] etc..
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Goku vs. Garou (Martial Arts Battle)
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And goku copied the kamehameha, hakai, destructo disk, solar flare, the 8 arm thingie [not too sure] etc..
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Yep.
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It doesn’t matter of it’s better its not the same technique.
None of those were done mid fight.
Goku has never copied in the middle of a fight.
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1- Never said it was.
2- It was literally done mid fight [The crazy monke first thingie.]
3- that is a good point, but he was still able to copy the kamehameha after only seeing it once, Achived, improved and potentially even mastered UI in the middle of a fight, he causally copied the hakai etc...
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Time skip prediction isn’t a quantifiable feat. He never uses power mimicry so it’s not even debatable. Garou can copy ultra instinct. Gaoru can copy “goku’s martial arts” even though most of the time Goku just beats people by having a bigger power level.
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1. Then it still isn’t power mimicry
2. It still isn’t power mimicry becsue it’s not the same technique
3. Goku will never power mimicry in the middle of a fight.
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1- Goku predicted a faster, stronger skilled enemy [who has his own analytical prediction] who also uses Time fuckery hax is literally better than garou's feat. Garou's feat is quite highball. He only predicted an amataur's hypothetical moves via using alot of info [The amataur was faster and stronger, but that's it].
2- He can't copy a layered IR which also requires a sturdy body. The moment he copies it, he gets torn into shreds.
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1- No...shit?
2- When i said it was? And it isn't, it's better.
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It’s not relevant to the discussion. We are talking about Goku using power mimicry.
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The funniest shit here is a guy arguing Goku rarely using something, which is not a factor when it come to measuring skill, just because a person use something less frequently doesn't mean he is unable to use it, it is still his skills and he perfectly capable using again. Arguing about how many time he use it is just arguing about what move said fighter use in-character
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We can only measure how good someone’s analytical prediction is by how well defined The scope of it is. Goku‘s analytical prediction is not well defined predicting hits time skip is not a quantifiable feat. If we were to take the feet at face value quantify into goku’s has immeasurable speed prediction which is obviously ridiculous because if that was the case Goku would never get hit by anyone in dragon ball.
Goku is predicting based upon what he sees before hit enters his time skip not during. You can use the time skip to scale up the analytical prediction any further than that.
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People lose fights all the time because they don’t use all the tools they have at their disposal
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Yeah but since Goku does know that this is strictly h2h. He should exploit everything he has to win.
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You can’t just change a character’s usual battle strategy on a whim.
This is Yoel Romero all over again.
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We're talking about the potency here.
According to the Daizenshuu it's a style of kenpou, actually. Which also proves Goku can copy MA.
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No we are not LMAO stats are equal. This is all about combat applicable stuff only.
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Yes, I can. Just need to adjust the rules. That's not even necessary to begin with. If Goku knows he cannot use stuff like Kamehameha, Hakai, Genki Dama, Instant Teleportation, etc.. What else does he do here? Of course techniques and skills that are used for hand-to-hand combat lol.
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Garou doesn't have the experience. Hasn't trained his body and doesn't have access to god ki. He's not copying ui. Master roshi had ir and it pales in comparison to ui. Ap has nothing to do with it. He tries to copy ui he'll end up like moro. Garou also hasn't shown to be able to copy ki based attacks. And goku uses god ki. Something that doesn't exist in opm. He also hasn't shown being able to use his mode to copy a different species. And goku's an alien. The kefla thing was a joke. Ui is also a god and angel technique. Garou doesn't have god ki. And apparently saiyan ki was said to have a different quality to it even in their base state once they have acquired god ki for themselves. Garou isn't a saiyan and saiyans don't exist in opm either. And there's still the fact that garou doesn't have god ki. And god ki not existing in opm. And goku himself not being from the same universe. So yeah.
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Goku's PM is combat applicable. Him not using it often doesn't change that. Though Goku does use it pretty often in more close combat related fights.
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Since garou isn't a saiyan, can't copy someone's dna or genetic make up and doesn't have god ki he's not copying anything. He hasn't even shown to use ki base/related attacks. He also hasn't copied any ki related attacks from anyone. Nor was it or has he shown and or stated that he is proficient or a master in using ki.
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According to both Vegeta and Goku, the secret to learning God Ki is powering up while not leaking and turning your ki into an aura.
Once Goku uses God Ki, Garou's knowledge on flow and forces would allow him to understand how God Ki works. He would be able to use God Ki, and in turn, copy UI once Goku uses it.
Once Goku uses God Ki, Garou's knowledge on flow and forces would allow him to understand how God Ki works. He would be able to use God Ki, and in turn, copy UI once Goku uses it.
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I disagree. His knowledge won't help him understand a force not from his universe. And since goku will be the one using it and garou doesn't have a saiyans biology and dna nor can he copy that he won't be able to copy goku's techniques or his ki which is innate to saiyans and upon a saiyan acquiring god ki it makes their saiyan ki take on a different quality even in their base state. God ki does not exist in opm. Saiyans don't exist. Garou isn't a saiyan and he can't copy a persons dna and biology. There's also the fact that ui is a god and angel tech that requires god ki to use. Ui itself is also hard to tap into and has requirements garou doesn't meet. Garou himself hasn't shown the use of ki based abilties. He hasn't copied any ki related abilities either.
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God ki is an energy that is impossible for mortals to achieve. Only those possessing divine qualities can have it.
It does not exist as a concept in opm so Garou copying it as well as UI (which is more advanced than anything he has ever copied) is wank.
It does not exist as a concept in opm so Garou copying it as well as UI (which is more advanced than anything he has ever copied) is wank.
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That is not true at all. Anyone can learn God Ki.
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Garou is not even mortal at the moment and his abilities are directly called divine power.
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My cousin learned it 2 weeks ago and is now already a master
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Through special angel or kaioshin training. It's a different form of ki that is gained only by beings with divine qualities like kaio.
This is a valid point however I don't think manga garou's power has anything to do with chi or life energy.
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Esper powers are not chi.
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Tatsumaki outright says that it is also called chi. It is also described as energy that flows through body. I don't have much info on dragon ball but isn't it basically the same thing?
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Their verses being ''merged together'' is not specified in the OP, so Garou's knowledge is limited to his own verse. Don't know why that has to be said so many times.
That is the key to mastering SSB, lmao. That doesn't grant you God ki.
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Goku can't even use ki in this match up as stated in the OP. Unless that is change the entire God Ki point is moot. Garou's passive radiation and maybe his Nuclear Fission punches also might need to be restricted as well considering how powerful in "radiation potency" they are and it doesn't exactly match the set up of the match.
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SBA: Am I a joke to you?
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Scans of it being called chi or it being related to life force.
All moster garou's abilities are resitricted. Only martial arts abilities are kept.
SBA does not state that verses are merged together. You don't understand standard battle assumptions.
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Here you go
But it equalizes verses. In this case, it is the practically same thing since Garou knows the "flow of all energy".
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Garou's cosmic radiation is just from him existing passively, that isn't restricted. The Nuclear Fission radiation is just a "skill technique" not an ability. (sounding like Ikki ik)
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