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Goku vs. Garou (Martial Arts Battle)

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Kin201 said:
They start trading blows and Goku appears to be at a disadvantage. Suddenly this soundtrack occurs and Goku begins to stomp.
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They start trading blows and Goku is getting dog walked and no diffed. Suddenly this soundtrack occurs and Goku begins to stomp.
 
Magmag said:
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They start trading blows and Goku is getting dog walked and no diffed. Suddenly this soundtrack occurs and Goku begins to stomp.
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Garou's not touching goku if he's using ui. He's going to be hitting air. The only thing he'll be no diffing and dog walking is that. And if he's not hitting air he'll be mangling himself hitting goku.
 
Scython said:
He doesn't.
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Why do I have to hold your hand through this.

“Now garou has gained knowledge of the flow of all energy and the behavior of all forces in the universe.”

Energy manipulation exists in opm. Why is this hard
 
Scython said:
Garou's not touching goku if he's using ui. He's going to be hitting air. The only thing he'll be no diffing and dog walking is that. And if he's not hitting air he'll be mangling himself hitting goku.
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Garou who has instinctive reaction already and who has cosmic awareness power mimicry, can’t copy ultra instinct……right
 
Scython said:
Garou's not touching goku if he's using ui. He's going to be hitting air. The only thing he'll be no diffing and dog walking is that. And if he's not hitting air he'll be mangling himself hitting goku.
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Lol ur funny scy, love u for that
 
DTG499 said:
Garou who has instinctive reaction already and who has cosmic awareness power mimicry, can’t copy ultra instinct……right
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You must really not like garou. Wanting him to end up like moro. The way the fight will go would be garou playing the role of both kefla and moro. Garou will be like kefla trying to hit goku. Then garou will end up like 73 moro after that.
 
DTG499 said:
Ok the only difference between god Ki and regular ki is that regular ki people can’t sense god ki, that’s ******* it.

People with regular ki have contented with god Ki and even overpower people with god ki in the show multiple times.

Jiren without having god Ki kicked everyone’s ass.

God Ki is no different from regular Ki and it doesn’t make you resistant to power mimicry.

How does being a different species make you resistant to power mimicry?

From what I can gather you are basically saying that garou can’t copy anything. Nothing. **** all. It’s a useless ability. That’s what you are saying.
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You need special training with gods or angels themselves in order to unlock godki or saiyan ritual but it specifically for saiyans.
 
So from what I get, Garou can't copy Ki based techniques such as solar flare or kamehameha but Goku can't copy moves like fist of gravity nuclear fission either since it isn't a ki based technique.
 
Shubham_Sonsurkar said:
So from what I get, Garou can't copy Ki based techniques such as solar flare or kamehameha but Goku can't copy moves like fist of gravity nuclear fission either since it isn't a ki based technique.
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Explain the first part, as I and many others have already gone over why Garou should be able to copy Ki.

Tldr: Garou can copy techniques that fall under the "Flow of All Energy and Forces in the Universe" which is how he replicates certain universal phenomena and Blast's abilities. Since Ki would be included within the bounds of "all energy" under verse equalization and Garou has copied/used abilities with similar or more complex applications, there is no reason to assume he can not mimic Ki attacks.
 
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Sure but does the ki works similar as in dragon ball since other shows also have concept of ki but they do not contain moves purely based off of ki itself. So isn't that NLF unless there are actual moves shown in OPM made purely from ki such as kamehameha or destructo disc or whatever.
 
Shubham_Sonsurkar said:
Sure but does the ki works similar as in dragon ball since other shows also have concept of ki but they do not contain moves purely based off of ki itself. So isn't that NLF unless there are actual moves shown in OPM made purely from ki such as kamehameha or destructo disc or whatever.
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Yes, Chi in OPM functions similar to Dragon Ball Ki. Dragon Ball's Ki is not much different from the general concept of Chi, and neither is OPM's.

Energy Attacks and Ki Attacks are almost one of the same. The only real difference being Ki is a supernatural form of energy that only certain verses utilize. The applicability of Ki is (in many cases) almost or fully identical to Energy Manipulation, especially in Dragon Ball. I mean, what really is the difference between a basic Energy Blast and a Ki Blast or Kamehameha? Other than that one is made out of Ki?

It is for this reason that I am inclined to believe that Garou can copy Ki-based attacks. And very easily at that. Whether or not he can copy "God Ki" or any of the Special Ki is up for debate, sure, but basic Ki? Yeah, no, I think he absolutely can.

Cosmic Awareness would make him aware of how Ki works and functions the moment this battle starts. And using his Extraordinary Genius fighting skill, universal knowledge, and "Mode: Goku" he should definitely be able to fire some Ki Blasts or Kamehamehas if Goku uses any of those in this battle.
 
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Garou can copy ki based techniques , but God ki is where he hard stop,why? Because people in DB can use God ki to have 4D strength and abilities, such as the G.O.Ds Hakai, Zeno’s EE , Zamasu’s HDE, Omipresence and Abstract Existence, all of which are infinitely superior to not just him, but his entire verse combined.
 
OneRhasstyBoi said:
Garou can copy ki based techniques , but God ki is where he hard stop,why? Because people in DB can use God ki to have 4D strength and abilities, such as the G.O.Ds Hakai, Zeno’s EE , Zamasu’s HDE, Omipresence and Abstract Existence, all of which are infinitely superior to not just him, but his entire verse combined.
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Dragon Ball's ki works differently from OPM's ki, and Garou's knowledge is limited to his verse. It's not gonna help him here.

Regardless, this is about h2h combat only. Still voting Goku.
 
BOEGVELD said:
Dragon Ball's ki works differently from OPM's ki, and Garou's knowledge is limited to his verse. It's not gonna help him here.

Regardless, this is about h2h combat only. Still voting Goku.
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"Limited to his verse"

In this fight, both verses are merged together. Garou would have knowledge of it. The ki is not different from OPM's.

List your reasons for voting Goku.

As far as I'm concerned, Garou has better Mimicry, Instinctive Reactions, Technique Merging, and Analytical Prediction.
 
Phoenks said:
In this fight, both verses are merged together.
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Nothing in the OP suggests this. And since when is "verses merged together" even a thing?

Better PM? The best thing he's copied is Portal Creation, while Goku has copied stuff like Existence Erasure. Though Garou does use it far more often.
Better Instinctive Reaction? Goku has it active in MUI and there's no time limit, either. Garou's IR are pretty random and he has no control over when it's active.
Better AP? Goku has predicted the movements of Hit in Base. So not only was he far, far slower, but Hit was also jumping ahead in time.

I don't see how you could possibly think Garou's better in any of these categories.

This also sums up why I believe Goku'd win. Plus him having far better Enhanced Senses, Extrasensory Perception, and being more versatile in MA.
 
Scython said:
You must really not like garou. Wanting him to end up like moro. The way the fight will go would be garou playing the role of both kefla and moro. Garou will be like kefla trying to hit goku. Then garou will end up like 73 moro after that.
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Be more explicit with your reasoning. Moro got over loaded because of the AP he copied from merus. AP isn’t a factor in this fight.

Ultra instinct is not that impressive of an ability your body reacting on independently of your mind is something street level characters from Baki the grappler can do. It has nothing to do with AP.

How is kefla even remotely related to the argument?
 
LordGinSama said:
Garou doesn't have better Analytical Prediction, Goku's is able to predict temporal jazz.


Garou's Analytical Prediction really isn't that impressive.
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That’s really overrated prediction. Goku himself said he was just predicting hit’s basic movements
 
Explain how a guy with cosmic awareness level power mimicry and instinctive reaction can’t copy.

The god Ki reason is bullshit becsue AP isn’t a factor in this fight.
 
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