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Goku vs. Garou (Martial Arts Battle)
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I didn't improperly judge it lol
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Sure you didn't.
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Just becuase you deny it doesn't mean I'm wrong~Sure you didn't.
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Ki is Goku's Life Energy, he can't use it to fight but he can still access it to perform UI techniques and transformations.
Goku isn't using Ki blast techniques, he is using these hands and Ki to use these hands better.
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Uh-uh. Now do you have any techniques to mention that Garou can't copy from Goku that follows the OP's guidelines?
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"You improperly judged!"Sure you didn't.
"No I didn't lol."
Yes, you did!"
"Nuh uhh."
That's how you two sound right now.
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Now describe how that helps in an equal stats match where transformations doesn't provide stat boosts according to the OP.
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I don't give a flying **** about Goku, I came here to address your NLF, nothing more lol
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He can improve his UI with transformations up to the point he has zero weakness against characters superior to him.
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So you have nothing to add to the thread.
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Okay but what does that mean in detail. Because that sounds like NLF too. Elaborate on what you mean.
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Nothing stated here is NLF.
Bringing up Saitama is useless because what Garou is trying to attempt is copying his stats, which isn't a factor in a stats equal match
Garou can copy anything and everything Goku has. Chi in OPM and Ki in Dragon Ball are equal due to SBA Verse Equalization, which means that the things Goku pulls off will be known by Garou due to his knowledge on the flow of all energy and forces in the universe.
And before you say "How will Garou know about Ki abilities
," in the latest chapter, after seeing Blast send a gravity projectile (something that doesn't exist IRL and Garou should have no way of knowing this normally), Garou seemed very familiar with it, and instantly copied it.
Let's not even get started in h2h fighting. Any punches Goku dishes out would get reflected back on him with 2 times the strength. Garou can add the reflecting with durability negation that would turn Goku's organs and bones into dust. Even if Goku gets grazed, his heart would still be effected.
Let's not forget that in the OP, "Goku cannot use ki in any way, shape, or form," which means that he can not use danmaku, he can not shoot ki blasts, and he can not use UI (correct me if I'm wrong on this last one)
Garou has everything against Goku in the scenario given in the OP. Voting for Goku is just clear bias when he has almost nothing to put Garou down.
Bringing up Saitama is useless because what Garou is trying to attempt is copying his stats, which isn't a factor in a stats equal match
Garou can copy anything and everything Goku has. Chi in OPM and Ki in Dragon Ball are equal due to SBA Verse Equalization, which means that the things Goku pulls off will be known by Garou due to his knowledge on the flow of all energy and forces in the universe.
And before you say "How will Garou know about Ki abilities
," in the latest chapter, after seeing Blast send a gravity projectile (something that doesn't exist IRL and Garou should have no way of knowing this normally), Garou seemed very familiar with it, and instantly copied it.Let's not even get started in h2h fighting. Any punches Goku dishes out would get reflected back on him with 2 times the strength. Garou can add the reflecting with durability negation that would turn Goku's organs and bones into dust. Even if Goku gets grazed, his heart would still be effected.
Let's not forget that in the OP, "Goku cannot use ki in any way, shape, or form," which means that he can not use danmaku, he can not shoot ki blasts, and he can not use UI (correct me if I'm wrong on this last one)
Garou has everything against Goku in the scenario given in the OP. Voting for Goku is just clear bias when he has almost nothing to put Garou down.
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Nothing but exposing your NLF yes!
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I don't think there is anyone in this thread that believes Garou's copying has no limits
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And then you realize that Genjutsu and ocular hax gave him the win.
Ooooh so scary Garou pissing his pants
Jibz
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Only ocular thing about it is Garou’s tears after losing off the bat
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You're entertaining someone who's trolling
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Idc why he is. I'm just telling Kachon to not waste their breath.
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Garou being able to copy MA isn't really relevant when you consider Goku has far better Analytical Prediction, Enhanced Senses, Extrasensory Perception and Pressure Points. Plus in UI he's able to avoid getting his vitals hit. Which he demonstrated against Granolah, who's not only specialized in PP, but was also stronger and faster.
Not to mention that if Goku really felt cornered, he could still either copy Garou as well, or create a new style to counter Garou.
I don't see how Garou would possibly win this lol.
Not to mention that if Goku really felt cornered, he could still either copy Garou as well, or create a new style to counter Garou.
I don't see how Garou would possibly win this lol.
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Proof?
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Youre just trolling at this point and/or obviously dont know what the term is.
Anyway.
Goku has a plethora of layers of UI techniques improvements in the past from ToP till now. Some of which involves him adding UI to all his transformations to boost, not only stat, but the effectiveness of UI. His highest transformation has Zero weakness to those vastly superior to him but it has a weakness: Goku can't adapt to his opponent in his highest Ultra Instinct form because UI goes against his Sayian Physiology which enables him to adapt and overpower his opponents. Goku can tap back into UI sign which is a level below his highest so that he can adapt to his Opponent at an extremely fast rate while using UI at the same time.
Goku who was weaker than Gas and Granola's full powers is suddenly superior to Gas thanks to his reactive evolution as a Sayian.
Not Only does Garou have to surpass many layers up to this point. He also has to surpass Goku's adaptation speed too.
Garou can't copy God Ki to use UI. Goku has faced someone who copied UI and was still superior. So Garou still has a ladder on top of a mountain to climb. Any "Garou Copies" claim is NLF at this point.
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He can sense God Ki, Garou can't.
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He can use transformations and UI techniques thanks to Ki as his life force.If Goku can't use Ki he shouldn't be able to use UI in the first place in this fight so why tf does it even matter.
He can't use Ki blasts or techniques to fight lol.
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that's not what this says
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it is literally stated to have and use chi wtf are u talking about lol
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Okay but what does UI allows Goku to do? It sounds like a glorified power boost according to what you're telling me with his sayian physiology adapation being more impressive and useful in this match up. Garou passively adapts and perfects techniques he copies (something literally stated and shown).
Also, I'm not trolling.
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Goku predicted the movements of a character who was not only faster, but also skipping ahead in time. Garou has done nothing on this level.
Garou only has ES Vision. Goku has ES Awareness, Vision and Smell.
Garou doesn't even have Extrasensory Perception...
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He doesn't use form literally there lol. They can transform.
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but Goku uses ki for his transformations-
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The whole point was the effectiveness of UI is boosted beyond anything Garou has shown to copy and is still improving. So Garou adapting to those comparable or below him in skill is moot cuz you're just being fallacious at this point.
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I think he's moreso referring to using ki for attacks or techniques like Instant Transmission. Just transforming alone does nothing but boost stats, but that's restricted anyway. Though Goku can now simply use UI as a technique as well.
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