You joke, but in all seriousness, he did say “Enuma Elish”.
Different view on Enuma Elish? You gonna been kidding me as the Visual Novel literally described Enuma Elish in full detail on what exactly his attack was gonna do especially since it still involve him charging it with his own energy.
So basically you don't have much to say against Gil holding back, because if you did, you would've posted a scan of Gil using more then like 10 weapons on Artoria. Fate/zero is another example of him using Enuma Elish and still holding back, hell, he literally impaled Iskandar with it.
Because if Gil wasn't holding back, he would've killed her the second she was in range of GoB with enough weapons to make Wrecker blush.(star wars reference)
I like to note though he doesn’t need to use both GOB and Ea as shown in his fight against Kiara and Best Mom beast (Tiamat).
Tiamat is weird, but I should note that Gil had a lot in front of him for that, dunno bout Kiara though, if I recall Enuma one-shots everything in CCC
He tried to keep her alive throughout the route till their final confrontation on top of the fact Shirou has feelings for Artoria and Artoria loved Shirou in return.
Except for BB and she did dodge it because Moon Cell shenanigans IIRC although I would double check as it has been years
I dunno, he did kinda go nuts in UBW, and still was flirting with her when he was dying in fate route
It would be best to check ye
You mean Tiamat needed to get dragged into the Underworld, Merlin’s help, KH applying the concept of death, and on top of that, make sure Tiamat stays in the underworld doesn’t negate the fact he was gonna do full power Ea on her especially since she is a threat that he see no need to hold back on TBH.
True, but it doesn’t negate the fact he wasn’t holding back on Artoria especially when her Noble Phantasm Excalibur is admittingly powerful in their own right. Not up with Ea obviously, but enough for him to take her seriously and just dropping full power Ea so if anything, he just do it if he being serious.
Only reason I didn't bring that up is cause I just want to argue right now, even for dumb shit lmfaoI love how everyone is just blatantly ignoring that one of Gil's key personality flaws is that he's arrogant and confident in his abilities to a fault (Literally one of the reasons why he loses in the first vn.)
In fact, iirc, the only reason's why he stopped holding back in F/SF is that 1, Enkidu is there, someone he knows he can fight all out against, and moreso 2, Alcides showed up and made bro crap his pants
But yeah ngl even if Gil himself is saying he's going all out, I's suggest to take it with a grain of salt, simply due to how he is as a character
Not all the time. Hell, the only reason why Gilgamesh lost in the final confrontation with Artoria is simply because of Shirou holding Avalon inside his body ie. Plot armor
I not ignoring the fact Gil is arrogant, but it is not like that all the time especially if we gonna ignore examples where he is willing to being serious against a opponent he deems worthy with using Ea as the nuke.I love how everyone is just blatantly ignoring that one of Gil's key personality flaws is that he's arrogant and confident in his abilities to a fault (Literally one of the reasons why he loses in the first vn.)
In fact, iirc, the only reason's why he stopped holding back in F/SF is that 1, Enkidu is there, someone he knows he can fight all out against, and moreso 2, Alcides showed up and made bro crap his pants
But yeah ngl even if Gil himself is saying he's going all out, I's suggest to take it with a grain of salt, simply due to how he is as a character
Well everything here was because of her immortalities, Merlin's help is the only thing that can be argued to be lowering her durability.
Babylonia is explicitly an exception, seeing as that's an older and wiser Gil, the man isn't motivated by how much fun he's having during Babylonia
Yeah, with Gil dying twice in Babylonia tbh.
The first time he basically said "dying is Gay" and left Ereshkigal after whatever happened, happened.
Tbh it's easier to claim that it's a Retcon rather than Gil was holding back, F/SF came out over 11 years after F/SN and Nasu has gone on record multiple times saying that he adjusted the power of the verse given the fact that the scale of FGO had changed his plans etc... A lot of shit can change in 11 years.
Personally, I feel like it is the opposite rather than him holding back as there are definitely instances of him taking individuals and not holding back.
There was a statement from FGO material book that does say something about that. It is from a 2016 material book too https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Fate/Grand_Order_material_I
[v] Fate/Grand Order material I - Enuma Elish |
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Enuma Elish. The creation of a spatial severance (空間切断, kuukan setsudan?) by the Sword of Separation (乖離剣, Kairi Ken?), Ea. Compressed (圧縮され, ashuku-sare?), intertwined (絡み合う, karami-au?) stratifications (断層, dansou?) of wind (風圧, fuuatsu?, lit. "wind pressure") become as a virtual (擬似的な, gijiteki-na?, lit. "quasi-, pseudo-, virtual") dislocation of space-time (時空断層, jikuu dansou?, lit. "space-time stratification / fault / dislocation"), annihilating any who would stand in opposition. Aside from holding an armor class (アーマークラス?) of sufficient magnitude to Anti-Purging (対粛清, tai-shukusei?, lit. "resisting Purging"), or enacting mutual negation (相殺, sousatsu?) via an attack that inflicts the same order of damage, the damage rendered cannot be defended against. |
Don't see how this hasnt come up yet, just generally when comes to the amount of feats, statements and showings we have for a lot of stuff they've gotten more impressive over the years.
Although I not sure on the Strange Fake example as it pretty much still show he can definitely destroy the earth if not Enkidu outright matching him with his NP.
I am aware he implied that but the issue of how ea appeared in strange fake and how it did in fate stay night exists.
Brother he was no diffing her even even with a casual ea. Why would he hold back I wonder.
And there already exist 3 different crts for the verse currently open, plus other threads from you, and this not even counting the Mooncell one that you made the exact same day as this one, so please calm the spam or I will need to report you (since spaming is an actual rule violation).
So yeah it seems to be that Avalon couldn't be penetrated back then or EA can't pierce through the NP and the NP is an exception to EA's power.
