gildedguy vs garou (8-6-0)

[KGiffoni]

Might i add, Garou is stated by WoG to have superior H2H combat in relation to Boros, the guy who is literally the conqueror of the universe and is, at least for what we know, far older than 20yo.

 

[Epiccheev]

And Gildedguys has beaten people with regen far superior to garou

Who? if you mean Bog that was a draw, gildedguy couldn't kill him, but bog was unable to possess him and left

 

[KGiffoni]

Bump

 

[KGiffoni]

bump

 

[Bob8999]

bump

 

[KGiffoni]

bump

 

[Bob8999]

bump

 

[Spinoirr]

Gild fra

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

What are the reasons again?

 

[KGiffoni]

Having lots of advantages at the start of the fight.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Didn't we cover that wouldn't matter as he isn't gonna be able to use them against AP and IR?

 

[Bob8999]

vote counted anyways

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I don't see how, though. Those advantages won't matter if he can't hit him.

 

[Bob8999]

hit him before he gets to fast. shouldnt be impossible with his range advantage and superior ap (atleast at the start.)

 

[KGiffoni]

hit him before he gets to fast. shouldnt be impossible with his range advantage and superior ap (atleast at the start.)

Garou could survive something that broke all his ribs before completly stomping said enemy in power, speed, etc. So i think it's very very hard to kill Garou even before his RE starts to fly, i mean, there's a reason he has Type 2 Immortality.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Not gonna matter, Precognition + IR won't allow that, and whilst he's trying to hit him Garou will be getting stronger with his far superior RE. Range doesn't matter, he can merely reflect or just dodge whatever tried to overwhelm him.

 

[Bob8999]

then doesnt that mean gilded has no win con and this is a stomp?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Decisive, but not a stomp.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Scans of garou being able to reflect something 3x stronger than himself?

 

[Dienomite22]

Scans of garou being able to reflect something 3x stronger than himself?

The entire metal bat fight

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Garou reflected essentially a physical danmaku, and stated if he was hit even once, he would've died. Iirc, this was even before he got AP + IR.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

And metal bat was stated to be 3x stronger where exactly?

 

[KGiffoni]

I mean, if you can be one-shot by someone they're probably more than 3x stronger than you, from my perspective.

 

[Dienomite22]

And metal bat was stated to be 3x stronger where exactly?

Assuming a situation in which one character has humanoid physiology and is hit in the torso region, the assailant will normally be treated as needing an attack potency 7.5 times higher than their opponent's durability in order to one-shot them.

Garou getting a direct hit at all on him from Metal Bat would have killed him. Also, There are some "buts" that go along with this rule but I don't think Metal Bat vs Garou fall in line with those.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Not necessarily, one shotting is a subjective term that Varies wildly from verse to verse.

 

[Dienomite22]

Not necessarily, one shotting is a subjective term that Varies wildly from verse to verse.

One shot in Metal Bat vs Garou's case means death

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Further emphasis is that Metal Bat had already been in a fight against a Dragon level threat, a threat so powerful that it split his skull open and he STILL fought Garou.

 

[KGiffoni]

Not necessarily, one shotting is a subjective term that Varies wildly from verse to verse.

Yeah, but you gotta agree with me that that difference in power must be, in most of the verses, including OPM, higher than 3x right?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@KG There are verses where someone barely stronger math-wise can oneshot and verses where someone dozens of times stronger cannot, a oneshot is not a set number

 

[Spinoirr]

I see this fight kinda going like medal bat vs garou but with a extending sword

 

[KGiffoni]

I see this fight kinda going like medal bat vs garou but with a extending sword

Same.

 

[Unoriginal_Memes]

Gildedguy FRA

 

[Phoenks]

This seems pretty close and i didnt read all the messages here but honestly im going Garou on this one FRA that i read.

 

[Spinoirr]

Glid also has reactive power level. So I see him keeping up so it wouldn't be a stomp

 

[Dienomite22]

It wouldn't be a stomp but I highly doubt GG's Reactive Power Level can out due Garou with Reactive Evolution, Accelerated Develpoment, crazy skill and stat amp who also, in a weaker and less skilled form, deflected attacks that could one shot him.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Gg has superior skill here, as well as stat amps

Still waiting on that scan of metal.bat being over 3x stronger than garou

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

We've established that his stat amps are far worse, and his one skill feat compared to Garou's multiple looks rather weak.

 

[Dienomite22]

@WeeklyBattles

Yea, I'm not buying GG having superior skill here, stats amps, maybe but it's not beating Garou's evolution.

You're not getting it, it's logically to say Metal Bat was well above 3x stronger than Garou's durability.

And the entire point is Garou can deflect attacks that can one-shot him.GG being over 3x stronger matters little and isn't considered one-shot territory on the site unless he is 7.5x stronger, which he isn't.

 

[KGiffoni]

His stat amps are worse than Garou's, we've said this the entire time.

 

[Epiccheev]

@KG There are verses where someone barely stronger math-wise can oneshot and verses where someone dozens of times stronger cannot, a oneshot is not a set number

has there ever been a match on this site where simply having a 3x AP difference was considered superior to enough to one-shot?

Because if we consider that a LOT of added matches would become stomps