gildedguy vs garou (8-6-0)

[KGiffoni]

GG can win, but only and ONLY If he takes Garou out before his speed and skill amps go to a level where GG can't keep up.

 

[Bob8999]

ha! 80+ posts in and someone finally votes! counted! (sorry i took so long.)

and garou maxes out at mountain level for this fight that was just to show that is reactive evolution is really fast, as it can go from mountian level to large island level in a very short amount of time and gildedguy´s starting ap is impressive enough that even max level 7-A shouldnt oneshot so its not a stomp, gilded is just gonna be fighting an uphill battle until he catches up ap wise. (that is if he isnt offed before that happens.)

 

[Epiccheev]

Garou FRA

 

[Bob8999]

counted.

 

[KGiffoni]

I think you're counting the votes for the wrong fighter.

 

[Bob8999]

oh... whoops. its fixed now though but thanks for telling me.

 

[KGiffoni]

Np

 

[WeeklyBattles]

GG can win, but only and ONLY If he takes Garou out before his speed and skill amps go to a level where GG can't keep up.

Seeing as GG starts at a 3x advantage, has a bladed weapon that can cross the range gap, and leads with going for the kill i dont see why he wouldnt be able to

 

[Bob8999]

yeah thats why it isnt a stomp, however repeating whats already been said wont change someones vote, so unless your gonna vote or you got something new it would be best to avoid being aggresive.

 

[KGiffoni]

He's not being offensive, he's just stating what he thinks. However, i do agree with Bob. We had our points, it's better to wait for people to vote now

 

[Bob8999]

ag┬Àgres┬Àsive

adjective

pursuing one's aims and interests forcefully, sometimes unduly so.


of┬Àfen┬Àsive

adjective

causing someone to feel deeply hurt, upset, or angry.

i used the top one. the one your thinking of is on the bottom.

 

[KGiffoni]

English isn't my primary language. Sorry.

 

[Bob8999]

no problem, its fine.

 

[Nico-v11]

So um why is speed equalized? They are both MH+

 

[Bob8999]

MH+ goes from Mach 1000 (767269 mph) to Mach 8810.2 (6759794.65 mph) so the upper limits are almost 9x faster than the lower levels, so you could call it a precaution.

 

[Nico-v11]

"Garou often withholds from using the Water Stream Rock Smashing Fist martial art until he needs to, as it reminds him of Bang. Prone to intentionally prolonging fights to become stronger, typically letting enemies get serious."

Garou prolonging a fight against someone that also amps in power and is already higher in power sounds like a terrible idea. Also this sounds like this is not a quick process either.

As far as skill or Garou copying Gildedguy's hand to hand skill.....eh not really? Yes Gildedguy is actually pretty damn good at fight hand to hand HOWEVER he's got no "form." He's described as being a brawler by the creator (so Garou can't really copy it) and besides it's not like Gildedguy is gonna just drop the sword. What's important to note is that Gildedguy's defense is automatically superior to Garou by a large margine. Gildedguy wears ARMOR.

Gildedguy tanks killing blows to him constantly and survives them because of said armor.

Jade with her spear form one shots pretty much everything seen in RHG (from what I've seen). It destroyed Oxob's forcefield, shocked Shadow Rose, and also one shot Gildedguy's armor.

HOWEVER, it obliterated Gildedguy's armor but he himself was unharmed by the attack. Even when the armor was vaporized (also by her most powerful attack) he was again still unharmed.

Garou has to bypass Gildedguy's armor before he can start to truly do damage to him.

Fear should not be any problem since Gildedguy fought Bog already and nothing's gonna be scarier than that freak of nature.

 

[Nico-v11]

Basically Gildedguy's durability >>>> his own AP. He's a stone wall in his own right.

 

[Epiccheev]

the weakness cited is from his first key, the later ones know best.

even if he couldn't copy or won't use it he can still devise countermeasures against it .

Like we said Garou's adaptation will take care of that, if anything it getting one-shot by another 7-A shows it's possible to overcome it without jumping tiers. And even then Garou can aim for the eyes if nothing works, it`s what he (tried) did to saitama

 

[Dienomite22]

Isn't Garou's own durability > his AP aswell?. Orochi vs Garou (Manga) and Rover vs Garou (Manga) displays this pretty clearly with Garou taking numerous attacks from Orochi that he though will kill him before evolving and then tanking other attacks from Rover and moments later having a run in with Orochi who he tanked more attacks from until Orochi used WSRCF.

 

[KGiffoni]

"Garou often withholds from using the Water Stream Rock Smashing Fist martial art until he needs to, as it reminds him of Bang. Prone to intentionally prolonging fights to become stronger, typically letting enemies get serious."
Garou prolonging a fight against someone that also amps in power and is already higher in power sounds like a terrible idea. Also this sounds like this is not a quick process either.

As far as skill or Garou copying Gildedguy's hand to hand skill.....eh not really? Yes Gildedguy is actually pretty damn good at fight hand to hand HOWEVER he's got no "form." He's described as being a brawler by the creator (so Garou can't really copy it) and besides it's not like Gildedguy is gonna just drop the sword. What's important to note is that Gildedguy's defense is automatically superior to Garou by a large margine. Gildedguy wears ARMOR.

Gildedguy tanks killing blows to him constantly and survives them because of said armor.

Jade with her spear form one shots pretty much everything seen in RHG (from what I've seen). It destroyed Oxob's forcefield, shocked Shadow Rose, and also one shot Gildedguy's armor.

HOWEVER, it obliterated Gildedguy's armor but he himself was unharmed by the attack. Even when the armor was vaporized (also by her most powerful attack) he was again still unharmed.

Garou has to bypass Gildedguy's armor before he can start to truly do damage to him.

Fear should not be any problem since Gildedguy fought Bog already and nothing's gonna be scarier than that freak of nature.

GG's dura is 7-A already counting with his armor.

 

[Epiccheev]

In Orochi's case he was told to hold back enough not to kill him by Psykos, as she intended to mold him into a monster to surpass the latter.

In Rover's case... you do have a point...

 

[KGiffoni]

In Orochi's case he was told to hold back enough not to kill him by Psykos, as she intended to mold him into a monster to surpass the latter.
In Rover's case... you do have a point...

I mean, "holding back" for someone who's High 6-C is still probably a good amount.

 

[Nico-v11]

@Epicccheev said 7-A is using an attack that is MUCH stronger than anything else as well, we cannot upgrade a characters' AP based on Oneshot potential but Jade's spear would logically be way higher than themselves normally or what Garou would be capable of (or else's Garou would be Oneshotting other 7-A's left and right.

The point is that Gildedguy tanks and no sells attacks from 7-A's that are superior to Garou and if Gildedguy's armor does go down from an immensely stronger attack he will still be physically fine and relatively unhurt. Garou will not be hurting Gildedguy much.

 

[KGiffoni]

I wish i was experienced on the RHG verse to debate this but i'm not. I'll wait for people to opine for a bit.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Good to see Nico kept up the fight in my absence lol

 

[Blahblah9755]

"Holding back" for a high 6C could be a decent amount, but if it's "Holding back enough not to kill him" then it's meaningless as a feat for Garou, since Orochi is then only using Garou level+ strength.

 

[KGiffoni]

"Holding back" for a high 6C could be a decent amount, but if it's "Holding back enough not to kill him" then it's meaningless as a feat for Garou, since Orochi is then only using Garou level+ strength.

Yeah, i know. He probably used strenght comparable to the cadres: still 7-A, but enough to give Garou a hard time.

 

[KGiffoni]

Bump

 

[Schnee_One]

Gildedguy FRA

 

[WeeklyBattles]

If it wasn't obvious 8m voting gg too

 

[Epiccheev]

imagine gildedguy vs garou animated

 

[KGiffoni]

imagine gildedguy vs garou animated

That would be nuts

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

So 3-3-0?

 

[Nico-v11]

Yeah I'm voting Gildedguy for my reasons

 

[KGiffoni]

So 3-3-0?

I guess so.

 

[Epiccheev]

@Epicccheev said 7-A is using an attack that is MUCH stronger than anything else as well, we cannot upgrade a characters' AP based on Oneshot potential but Jade's spear would logically be way higher than themselves normally or what Garou would be capable of (or else's Garou would be Oneshotting other 7-A's left and right.
The point is that Gildedguy tanks and no sells attacks from 7-A's that are superior to Garou and if Gildedguy's armor does go down from an immensely stronger attack he will still be physically fine and relatively unhurt. Garou will not be hurting Gildedguy much.

That's an incon honestly, he still has to take down Garou in order to win.

Considering WSRSFreflecting attacks with one-shot potential and him being able to defeat someone who was above that with his RE and raw combat skill to a point where the other guy couldn't even keep up with him or damage him any longer.

If it goes that way it will just end up with 2 top 7-A fighters unable to harm each other fighting until one collapses

 

[KGiffoni]

Actually, Garou amps his speed and technique along with his strenght. So if the fight extends, it goes like this:

Both will have peak 7-A AP and durability so the 3x AP advantage GG had at the start is gone; Garou will slowly start to blitz; Garou will be able to match GG's H2H experience and perhaps even end up superior; Garou's Regenerationn seems to have an amp in speed as well; Etc.

The speed Garou's RE happens depends. From my observations, it depends on how bloodlusted and determined he is to win. In his fight against Darkshine, the later mocked Garou's "monster play", what leaded to trigger Garou's RE once again, who completly overwhelmed Darkshine. In his fight against Golden Sperm, it's where Garou gets his biggest boost in both strenght, speed, intelligence, etc. Probably because GS is the strongest monster everyone (minus Saitama who got to know Boros, and Orochi doesn't exist on the webcomic) got to see, and as such meant a big challenge to Garou because he despised their "monstrous behavior" as much as he despises "hero play", and Garou probably saw that as the chance to be the "perfect monster". The fact Garou is half-monster here (after his fight with Orochi in the manga and before his fight with Darkshine) should give him a pretty damn fast RE, the same one he had when he fought Darkshine.

 

[Bob8999]

votes updated. (hope i didnt miss anyone.)

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Kg Gildedguy amps his speed as well

And Gildedguys has beaten people with regen far superior to garou

 

[KGiffoni]

@Kg Gildedguy amps his speed as well
And Gildedguys has beaten people with regen far superior to garou

Not on the same rate Garou does. That's the point. And yes, i'm just saying his regen will happen faster, more to exemplify.