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General DC Comics Discussion Thread

Antvasima said:
By the way, @Firestorm808 , did anybody start an upgrade thread for Post-Rebirth Supergirl and comparable characters to possibly be upgraded to 4-A,based on our earlier discussion here?
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I haven't read it yet, but the feats come from the Post-Death Metal Era.

Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow Vol 1 #7, March 2022
I think we need to discuss Post-Rebirth and Infinite Frontier splits since IF merged all hero histories into one or something IIRC.
 
Thank you for helping out. What do other knowledgeable members here think about this issue?
 
Firestorm808 said:
I haven't read it yet, but the feats come from the Post-Death Metal Era.

Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow Vol 1 #7, March 2022
I think we need to discuss Post-Rebirth and Infinite Frontier splits since IF merged all hero histories into one or something IIRC.
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Some of your descriptions are a bit off. For example it says they "haul" stars not hurl, and it doesn't say effortlessly. Some of the world's strongest men can haul a car. No one can hurl one.

Also it seems like all of the galaxies stuff are in the context of pillaging and conquering, not galactic destruction. I'd say star level is clear from the issue but not galaxy.
 
Thank you for helping out.
 
Deagonx said:
Some of your descriptions are a bit off. For example it says they "haul" stars not hurl, and it doesn't say effortlessly. Some of the world's strongest men can haul a car. No one can hurl one.

Also it seems like all of the galaxies stuff are in the context of pillaging and conquering, not galactic destruction. I'd say star level is clear from the issue but not galaxy.
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Apologies, I just copied them from an earlier post for reference.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Lmao what
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Quora my friend, very popular form of scaling on there

A single atom from DC, Marvel and SCP is seen as, and i quote “beyond infinite^infinite^8 layers into irrelevant layers into Boundless” i genuinely hope i am making this up, this is an actual serious debatable topic on quora

Power scaling is ******* deceased
 
NHTkenshin2 said:
Quora my friend, very popular form of scaling on there

A single atom from DC, Marvel and SCP is seen as, and i quote “beyond infinite^infinite^8 layers into irrelevant layers into Boundless” i genuinely hope i am making this up, this is an actual serious debatable topic on quora

Power scaling is ******* deceased
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You ain't it making it up, it is confirmed to be boundless 💀
 
NHTkenshin2 said:
Quora my friend, very popular form of scaling on there

A single atom from DC, Marvel and SCP is seen as, and i quote “beyond infinite^infinite^8 layers into irrelevant layers into Boundless” i genuinely hope i am making this up, this is an actual serious debatable topic on quora

Power scaling is ******* deceased
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I need a link 💀
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
I need a link 💀
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SCP

proatomgang.quora.com

SCP atoms scale remastered

Alright since DC and Marvel atoms got upgraded to Beyond^inf irrelevant layers into boundless lowballed and Beyond^inf irrelevant layers into Absolute Infinity midball https://qr.ae/pr1h1z https://qr.ae/prXgkL Might as well upgrade the old SCP atom scale to be comparable with them https://scpfo...
proatomgang.quora.com proatomgang.quora.com

Marvel and DC

fictonialmythos.quora.com

Debate: DC and Marvel atoms (me) vs Featherine (Xvoltron) #1

Judge is Drained and the rules for the debate here: https://qr.ae/pr1XGg Aight before we start scaling, it should be noted that crossovers between DC and Marvel are canon so their cosmology scaling can be used for each other. https://www.quora.com/How-was-there-a-Canon-crossover-between-DC-and-...
fictonialmythos.quora.com fictonialmythos.quora.com

 
Unfortunately, a certain type of Marvel Comics and DC Comics "fans" have been the by far most unreasonably and irrationally upgrade-hungry and toxic power-scaling supporters that I have ever encountered.

The trolls that terrorised me for years with hundreds of disgusting gore and **** images, death threats, and genocidal bigotry among them.

Comparatively speaking, manga and game fans haven't been nearly as desperate for self-validation through boosting their favoured characters as unreasonably much as possible, or at least not the ones I have encountered for the past 8.5 years.
 
NHTkenshin2 said:
I wanted to ask a question on Mandrakk and Mar Novu
Who is the primordial monitor, Who is the actual first monitor in DC Comics?
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The most recent canon is that the Monitors of Nil were fragments of Mar Novu, which is why they all look like him.
 
Just cause they are 2-C dosen't mean it's exaggerated, doing that for DC heralds would be possible that's if anyone can bring reasonable feats or scaling but I don't think anyone Is interested in doing that.
 
Da_Lunge_Fish said:
So, a bit of a spoiler, but we had Barry Allen in dark crisis big bang
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He was able to knock around and damage the Anti-Monitor, plus survive attacks from him. This would scale to only a peak Barry, as it's stated by him he's rarely gone on this level before.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
He was able to knock around and damage the Anti-Monitor, plus survive attacks from him. This would scale to only a peak Barry, as it's stated by him he's rarely gone on this level before.
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Yeah, but we actually have peak Barry at solar system level currently. LCM is only for environmental destruction
 
Barry said at near light-speed his punch can deform space-time itself plus he stated the punch becomes more powerful when the right amount of vibrational energy is used and becomes the mightiest punch in the multiverse. This would make peak Barry and wally(for obvious scaling) Atleast Low 2-C at peak possibly higher due to being able to deform space-time itself beating up Anti-monitor for a while. Plus Anti-Monitor in this storyline is 2-A since Barry said he destroyed infinite universes to just one and also the fact Barry believed he was destroying realities before he met him(though this is 2-C)

So Barry would probably be Low 2-C possibly higher
Or Low 2-C possibly 2-A for beating and damaging Anti-Monitor through realities.
Or straight up 2-A for beating up and damaging Anti monitor. Only wally would scale to Barry.
 
Uh oh Anti-Monitor fans...
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That's Batman Beyond's Superman staggering and damaging AM's armor with a hit. That hit actually looks to more damage to AM's armor than any of Flashes did in this issue.
 
Is that batman beyond superman? Didn't know since Barry said he didn't know any of them and all are from different realities,besides we lack information on them.
 
Vondoom said:
Is that batman beyond superman? Didn't know since Barry said he didn't know any of them and all are from different realities. Besides we lack information on them.
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Yes, only BB's Superman has that costume design and it's identical to his. He even has the same white streaks in his hair that BB Supes does. Flash never met BB Supes anyway.
 
Ocean7447 said:
Yes, only BB's Superman has that costume design and it's identical to his. He even has the same white streaks in his hair that BB Supes does. Flash never met BB Supes anyway.
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Okay then, still dude dosen't have a profile and it would seem like an outlier to him since he might not have other feats on that level, though I didn't go deep on the batman beyond book but I doubt he has any other tier 2 feats.
 
Vondoom said:
Just cause they are 2-C dosen't mean it's exaggerated, doing that for DC heralds would be possible that's if anyone can bring reasonable feats or scaling but I don't think anyone Is interested in doing that.
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Yes, we need actual feats on that level to scale from, not just "everybody can fight everybody"-style power scaling.
 
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So, could the Anti Monitor fight be an upgrade for Barry Allen? Even if we decide the fight itself to be an outlier, it still proves that Barry can use the Infinite Mass Punch (repeatedly, mind you) and explicitly states it can screw up space time. He repeatedly weaponized the space time part too by yeeting Anti-Monitor across the multiverse
 
Da_Lunge_Fish said:
So, could the Anti Monitor fight be an upgrade for Barry Allen? Even if we decide the fight itself to be an outlier, it still proves that Barry can use the Infinite Mass Punch (repeatedly, mind you) and explicitly states it can screw up space time. He repeatedly weaponized the space time part too by yeeting Anti-Monitor across the multiverse
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I don't see how it's an outlier for Barry. I think it's obvious it'd make more sense for him to use more lethal force against the AM than he did in Flash War because of the situation at hand.
 
Thawne, Hunter and Black Flash could arguably scale since Thawne is shown to consistently be Barry's equal if not superior and they even fought while Barry was full on bloodlusted, while Hunter and Black Flash are just stated to be straight up superior to Barry but I'm just talking outta my ass here so ignore me :3
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Thawne, Hunter and Black Flash could arguably scale since Thawne is shown to consistently be Barry's equal if not superior and they even fought while Barry was full on bloodlusted, while Hunter and Black Flash are just stated to be straight up superior to Barry but I'm just talking outta my ass here so ignore me :3
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I mean, another time Thawne just got absolutely one-shot the moment Barry got serious IIRC.
 
Well, I have blocked my access to most of my negative input sources that place me in a state of reaction, including western superhero stories, so I haven't read the latest issue where this feat happens, but if the above descriptions are accurate, I don't see why Barry wouldn't scale from this just like Wally did from a similar feat.
 
As of now, Rebirth Barry and Wally definitely scale, but only at their max peak. Rebirth Thawne, Hunter Zolomon and the Black Flash maybe could scale but as of now idk honestly, I'll look into it when I'm more free
 
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