Garou vs Cinder (OPM vs RWBY)

[azontr]

You guys should probably put RWBY's skill scaling in a blog with relevant scans and shit to explain who scales and who doesn't. Would make debates way easier since the skill scaling chain is enormous.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

You guys should probably put RWBY's skill scaling in a blog with relevant scans and shit to explain who scales and who doesn't. Would make debates way easier since the skill scaling chain is enormous.

Its in th works, kinda hard when iv been absent for a year and have a years worth of stuff to deal with as a result :/

 

[Spinoirr]

Btw I have scans from the light novel of Velvet using all her copyed skill but still losing to nebula

 

[Imouto-tan]

I'm still learning towards Garou with a possible incon

 

[MrKerf]

No, he couldn't, because human Garou has never done that.

His adaptability didn't appear out of nowhere, he has it in his human form, and it works just the same. Obviously he isn't transformed here, so it isn't quaranteed for fire to not affect him instantly or anything, but Cinder is no Orochi either.
And it's not like he can't transform either.

Weekly, I've rewatched most mentioned RWBY fights. You are coping out of your mind if you think Cinder outskills Garou.
I may miss some feats from books, but I am pretty sure there are no books on CInder.
You can use skill scaling and statements all you want, but showings are abyssmal.

 

[Spinoirr]

His adaptability didn't appear out of nowhere, he has it in his human form, and it works just the same. Obviously he isn't transformed here, so it isn't quaranteed for fire to not affect him instantly or anything, but Cinder is no Orochi either.
And it's not like he can't transform either.

Weekly, I've rewatched most mentioned RWBY fights. You are coping out of your mind if you think Cinder outskills Garou.
I may miss some feats from books, but I am pretty sure there are no books on CInder.
You can use skill scaling and statements all you want, but showings are abyssmal.

Dragon ball z and MHA skill showing is also abyssmal too so what

 

[TauanVictor]

I vote for the guy who went from MHS+ to FTL in a few seconds of fighting FRA.

 

[MrKerf]

Dragon ball z and MHA skill showing is also abyssmal too so what

Bruuuh.
Skipping the entire skill chain, Cinder was actually the inferior one in the Neo vs Cinder fight.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Weekly, I've rewatched most mentioned RWBY fights. You are coping out of your mind if you think Cinder outskills Garou.
I may miss some feats from books, but I am pretty sure there are no books on CInder.
You can use skill scaling and statements all you want, but showings are abyssmal.

Then Garou is an unskilled moron because the "showings" aren't good enough. RWBY is not exactly the pinnacle of animation. If you've watched it you should know this

Bruuuh.
Skipping the entire skill chain, Cinder was actually the inferior one in the Neo vs Cinder fight.

How many solid hits did Neo land and how many solid hits did Cinder land? Lol

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I vote for the guy who went from MHS+ to FTL in a few seconds of fighting FRA.

This never happen in this key

 

[DaReaperMan]

But yeah, the statements are acceptable because... well have you seen the jank on some of the volumes of RWBY? It's like arguing Doomguy isn't skilled because most of his feats are from statements, the DOOM supporters and debaters would NEVER accept that!

 

[Spinoirr]

We go by lore and WoG when it comes to skill because fiction can't really show skill as well as statement or wog or lore (especially 3D animated series made originally as a webseries)

 

[LordGinSama]

Composite Boxer deadass outskills them both.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Composite Boxer deadass outskills them both.

Wish I could say the same about my verse...

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Composite Boxer deadass outskills them both.

what are you talking about Arc

 

[Spinoirr]

This never happen in this key

People are forgetting garou is stuck to his frist key and can't transform into his half monster form

 

[RandomGuy2345]

People are forgetting garou is suck to his frist key and can't transform into his half monster form

Garou was sucked to his first key?

 

[Spinoirr]

Composite Boxer deadass outskills them both.

We go by lore and WoG when it comes to skill because fiction can't really show skill as well as statement or wog or lore (especially 3D animated series made originally as a webseries)

But yeah, the statements are acceptable because... well have you seen the jank on some of the volumes of RWBY? It's like arguing Doomguy isn't skilled because most of his feats are from statements, the DOOM supporters and debaters would NEVER accept that!

I guess Ichigo isn't skilled because he always spams one move and swings his sword at people

 

[MrKerf]

But yeah, the statements are acceptable because... well have you seen the jank on some of the volumes of RWBY? It's like arguing Doomguy isn't skilled because most of his feats are from statements, the DOOM supporters and debaters would NEVER accept that!

Listen, I once argued in a match with Connor from Detroit-Human and that analytic guy from Worm. Case and point, both beat elite swat units or something. But showings of one swat were more impressive.

Point is, we need to base statements on something. In this case, on animation.

 

[LordGinSama]

what are you talking about Arc

Brazilian moment

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Point is, we need to base statements on something. In this case, on animation.

I mean, if Character A states Character B is more skilled than him/her, who was able to do 'X' skill feat, then wouldn't that be viable?

Or am I just getting the point completely wrong here?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Brazilian moment

Come on arc, whats the reasons for such homophobia

 

[MrKerf]

I mean, if Character A states Character B is more skilled than him/her, who was able to do 'X' skill feat, then wouldn't that be viable?

Or am I just getting the point completely wrong here?

It would, but don’t mean jack if character A skills shown to be garbage.

 

[MrKerf]

That’s like scaling Goku using multiples when we don’t know his base power, basically.

 

[Spinoirr]

More like scaling Deku to his statements despite him literally just throwing basic punches and kicks

Oh wait, Deku is rated here as a skilled fighter despite that, despite shigrakis best on screen hand to hand combat is fighting like a Cat with Deku out classing him only because he was stronger with 100% smashes and using him like a yo yo with black whip

 

[RandomGuy2345]

The exact reason why I don't like skill debates...

 

[Kachon123]

Garou FRA

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Everyone know that statements can be used

But show feats > statements feats

 

[Spinoirr]

Everyone know that statements can be used

But show feats > statements feats

Guess we need to downgrade dekus skill then If that's the case

 

[MrKerf]

Guess we need to downgrade dekus skill then I'd that's the case

On it.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Guess we need to downgrade dekus skill then

You really interpret my comment like that?

But yeah, I agree

 

[WeeklyBattles]

It would, but don’t mean jack if character A skills shown to be garbage.

Good to hear, so you agree then, because Cinder on her own has damn good skill feats, as does basically evryone in the verse

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Garou FRA

Reasoning?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Reasoning?

for reasons above

 

[MrKerf]

True, no FRA, we are still discussing. She still can fly and all.

 

[Kachon123]

Reasoning?

Above

 

[Spinoirr]

Anyways I vote icon because of cinders fire and if garou can even adapt to it before it badly harms him or kills him before he possibly can even adapt to it

(Tldr cinder spams her super hot fire a lot and likes range to spam in this key)

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Above

That reasoning above being? Because no one has argued that he WINS via being more skilled, only that he is more skilled, and even then thats still being debated

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

At the end of the day Deku outsmart both and Kid Zoro skill stomps while blind

 

[MrKerf]

Good to hear, so you agree then, because Cinder on her own has damn good skill feats, as does basically evryone in the verse

Listen, her skill are maybe around Iaian’s level, and that’s fattest maybe in my life. Best you can’t argue is her maiden skills. Show me something.