No, I mean it’s a skill feat for them. It’s just not an applicable skill feat to say against Garou since Garou doesn’t have aura which is their own unique ability. It’d be kind of like me saying how Garou also went through intense training to learn his martial arts there in by he’s more skilled than Cinder.
Meh, fair i guess, though theres still the fact that basically every named character in the verse has been trained in combat since childhood and is recognized as being in the top percentile of the best fighters on the planet
Well going from your post the only character who did that to Velvet was a character that doesn’t scale to Cinder in skill unless I’m mistaken so I don’t know where you’re getting Cinder’s absurdly more skilled. Also where are you getting agreed on that Velvet’s copying abilities are skill based since in here at least that hasn’t been agreed on by a majority of users that have commented on it?
She does scale above Nebula yeah, sorry if i didnt clarify that, again, i need to get this stuff in a blog so im not just copy-pasting a college thesis every time im explaining the skill chain lol
Basically, Velvet < Nebula <<<<<< Pyrrha < Mercury < Neo = Cinder
And Pyrrha < Mercury < Ace Ops < Winter/Penny = Cinder
What do you mean bypass? And do you mean Maria since the only time she ever caught her off guard was when she slammed a ship into her robot (which wouldn’t fall under her “preflexes semblance so she didn’t bypass it there either) and during the fight itself, Neo was out skilled by Maria if I’m recalling correctly.
Yeah, Maria's semblance allows her to react to incoming attacks before they happen even if she cant see them as well as sense stuff in the environment better than normal aura users and Neo was able to blindside her
Ok….and? Has Yang ever directly used her semblance on Cinder? And unlike Yang's semblance, Garou doesn’t need to take any damage to dish it back out two fold.
Was more in reference to the same ability existing in RWBY lol
And if he doesnt need to take damage then it would actually be Adam's semblance, not Yang's, though Cinder has seen both semblances in action before yes
The issue is that these skill feats don’t scale to Cinder at all. Of the 3 examples you gave, 2 of them were Faunus who are specifically noted to have better senses than regular humans, and 2 of them had semblances specifically aiding them in that ability. Fox had both.
Eh? Only one of those people is a Faunus, Adam, Fox and Maria are both humans, and of those three only Maria has a semblance that helps her, Adam's semblance is damage absorption and Fox's is telepathy. Of the three, Fox has the least amount of help with it, he is just super good with aura senses.
I’m trying to remember what you’re referring to actually. Even against Raven when she out of aura she got hit from behind (even when given a warning from Raven lol) before she could activate that barrier.
Near the beginning of the fight, when both were clashing with their giant swords they had bubble shields around themselves. Also in both the
first fight against Ruby and
the fight with Amber they were shown to be able to create barriers in front of themselves independent of their Aura.
I…also don’t know what you’re referring to there as even when Pyrrha was hit she was still alive before Cinder killed her and even looking on Cinder’s vs battle profile shows she has no form of durability negation listed there as well as the fact that it’s very easy for Garou to deflect arrows too.
She was still alive because Cinder wanted to mock her, something she moved beyond doing after the timeskip. And the fact that he can deflect arrows doesnt make much of a difference when Cinder can just
make her arrows go around his attempts to deflect them
Him deflecting all the bullets is simply to demonstrate how easily and capable he is at deflecting things. He did something similar against golden ball too. Cinder can reform and send her arrows and Garou can just deflect them all over again.
Oh i know he's good at deflecting attacks but has he ever had to deal with something like Cinder's arrows before, a projectile that can effectively 'dodge' an attempt to intercept it?
At what point are there too many pieces of arrows for Cinder to control.
There really isnt a point like that, she is able to manipulate her arrows even when then are reduced to powder as that is their natural state
Ok a lot of the things you mentioned aren’t really showing what you’re describing. Adam vs Yang and Blake ended with Yang using her semblance to overpower Adam and then he simply tried to reach for a knife before immediately getting stabbed and killed on the spot. Pretty sure when Weiss lost her aura against Vernal she also immediately fell to the ground and then was stabbed shortly after. Of course they can still try and put up a fight without aura, but you’re essentially done from the fight once your aura is gone as is depicted time and time again in the series even post time skip. Winter vs Ironwood was literally an instant loss for Winter the moment her aura was gone and was only saved from an immediate magic boost.
Also even in the instances you mention such as Winter vs Ironwood, had Winter not gotten the power boost then she would’ve been done the moment her aura was gone.
In Adam vs Yang and Blake, all three of them had their auras broken but were still capable of fighting. When weiss had her aura broken by Vernal she was shown still fighting against her in the background several minutes before Cinder stabbed her. In Winter vs Ironwood Winter was still fully capable of fighting she just no longer had Aura. Aura breaks dont lower the stats of the user and theyre not 'done' when their aura is broken, it just removes the defensive barrier around their bodies meaning they can actually be hurt by attacks.
Oh man I actually forgot about that lol. But I think this kind of aides in my point since Cinder here was fighting against non maidens while she was a maiden but when she fought Penny individually she lost and stalemated against Winter when she got maiden powers. So that seems like she has a power gap their.
Yeah this was kind of my point up above when Cinder was fighting Penny and Winter since they didn’t have maiden powers while she did and once they did get maiden powers, Cinder could no longer dominate them.
Except she wasnt using her Maiden powers for 95% of the fight, only when they were up in the air. And yeah, that was my point, she is equal to them in skill
