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Whether or not warping an entire universe being considered a 3-A or Low 2-C feat is a case-by-case basis, the default assumption is that space-time is being affected by the merge because that's how it works here and that's how a literal universe is defined, unless there's explicit evidence that says the polar opposite of what my arguments were trying to exemplify in the first place, we have ''possibly'' rating in our tiering system to exemplify whether or not to categorize those feats if they are directly blatant or not.So you concede she isn't warping two different space and times, thus no tier 2 feat here, she is affecting the spatial universe, ergo 3-A, you are describing a 3-A feat and saying that's tier 2 because you say so, I am wondering if you even understand the difference between 3-A and low 2-C
But it has the possibility of it being tier 2, since the hole she created was still warping the rest of the dimension before she was stopped by the others, why is this hard to understand? She isn't fusing a castle with another castle and saying ''wow i'm going to create a new kingdom'', she is just warping everything inside of the dimension because that's how we are visibly showed in-screen of she doing so. Which by the point of merge doesn't entirely discredit my other arguments.I can say it because she isn't destroying the universe, what the heck even is this argument? "I didn't say she was going to destroy the universe but universe destruction is low 2-C so she is low 2-C", pure nonsense, she was going to merge with a merge with a realm, yeah, that's not automatically tier 2
That's why I said the feat is POSSIBLY tier 2, which we have a direct terminology to how we can directly categorize it.Because she isn't doing any of those feats, she is simly merging two realms that are part of the same universe, that's not low 2-C, just 3-A, you even concede it isn't tier 2 by arguing for a possibly rating when there's no feat to be argued for
We don't have a direct statement of her directly affecting space-time with the merge, but it's possible that she did in some sense of the word.Possibly
Should be used to list a statistic for a character with some basis, but inconclusive due to the justification being vague or non-definitive. The probability of the justification in question for being reliable should be notable, but mild. This term should be used sparingly.
You also just repeated yourself through the rest of the debate, but if you want me to throw justifications away, then at least know for a fact that I'm not saying that this a FLAT Low 2-C feat, just a possibly, as the AP justification proposed follows up:You are just repeating yourself, prove this is remotely tier 2 or concede, your argument seems to be "it's tier 2 because I say so and you don't understand me". I don't need to debunk this not being tier 2, you need to prove there's an actual tier 2 feat, which I will be here waiting for it
At least Universe level, possibly Universe level+ (Defeated Merlina, who was going to use the powers of the Scabbard of Excalibur to warp the entirety of the World Of Camelot and merge it with the Underworld, which consists in a parallel universe of it's own space-time)
Except there is no proof of this being a Low 2-C feat. Just because a feat is 3-A apsolutely does NOT mean it's Low 2-C in any regard, time is never mentioned, and as such the feat cannot be Low 2-C at all, the realms having space-time isn't an argument when there ain't proof those were merged too.You also just repeated yourself through the rest of the debate, but if you want me to throw justifications away, then at least know for a fact that I'm not saying that this a FLAT Low 2-C feat, just a possibly, as the AP justification proposed follows up:
Dude just get to the 3-A stuff and save the Low 2-C for another thread.
Your AP description is of a 2-C feat, not even low 2-C, merging two universes is 2-C, Camelot being a low 2-C structure is irrelevant when Merlina's feat inside of it is 3-A, I don't care if it's "possibly", there's simply no low 2-C feat here, noneYou also just repeated yourself through the rest of the debate, but if you want me to throw justifications away, then at least know for a fact that I'm not saying that this a FLAT Low 2-C feat, just a possibly, as the AP justification proposed follows up:
You need staff input first before applying any CRTAnyways, I'll remove the Low 2-C stuff from the thread and apply the 3-A ratings until further input is made.
That's why I said until further input is made, because I still need some staff to comment on this.You need staff input first before applying any CRT
That is what we are waiting onHas any staff accepted this?
True but that would pretty much screw up the narrative of SatBK right? then again Sonic already knows a few immortals prior to the game, so "meh" I guess?You could argue Excalibur has all of it's powers tho
Shouldn't Excalibur Sonic have Type 2 Immortality in his list of abilities?I don't think so, Sonic only had Excalibur at the end of the game
This will be saved for another thread as of now.Are we still arguing Low 2-C or not?
Why should he? Serious questionShouldn't
Shouldn't Excalibur Sonic have Type 2 Immortality in his list of abilities?
His type 2 immortality comes from Caliburn (At least that’s what it says in his optional equipment). And Excalibur is just Caliburn combined with the other swords.Why should he? Serious question
Thanks for replying.I'm an outsider to the series, but the hax additions seem fine to add. I'm not sure about the 3-A rating, but I trust Starter Pack's opinion.
I have edited both Sonic and Shadow's pages, you can lock them for now.Sonic's has been unlocked. As well as Shadow's
I find pretty odd in the ascending order of them, but this is another talk as of now, I'll ask a staff to close this and the rest of the work is done.Am I the only who finds it irksome that now Sonic’s keys aren’t in ascending order now that Excalibur Sonic is 3-A?