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Wow can you show me where it was stated that garp needed sengoku?

Shiki was attacking their HQ, why wouldn't they reply with full force?
Oh? But you said Shiki needed those fleets to contend with Roger?
What's different here?
 
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Pirate king level is part of this debate, as Primebeard scales to it.
But people are just deluded and act like it's an empty title.
 
How does that make me the one who derailed it? Its not wrong asking for proof since hes the first who brought it up bro chill
So that claim doesnt stand then.?

Yes they need the poneglyphs tf? "Pirate King Lvl" doesnt exist
You are posting comments and replying about pirate king lvl not being a thing and stuff yes.. That has nothing to do with Whitebeard v luffy
 
You are posting comments and reply about pirate king lvl not being a thing and stuff yes.. That has nothing to do with Whitebeard v luffy
Hes the one who brought that up first since his argument is based of Pirate King level which doesnt exist in the manga judt how "Commander level" doesnt exist its just a fanmade power level thing

This is the last thing im saying since i have already given my vote to Luffy no need to continue this
 
Xebec in current scaling is stronger then Roger, what's he, "Supreme Pirate King level"?

With current scaling Old Shiki~Sickbeard<Oldbeard~Shanks<Primebeard~Roger~Prime Shiki<Xebec

Let's do this again except with Kaido's statements of considering people top 5 and shit

Old Shiki~Sickbeard<Oldbeard~Shanks~<Primebeard~Roger~Prime Shiki~BASE Kaido and Big Mom

Ya'll see an issue here? That's BASE Kaido who's considered comparable to Primebeard and Roger. If ya disagree revise our scaling of Kaido feel free to make a CRT
 
Xebec in current scaling is stronger then Roger, what's he, "Supreme Pirate King level"?

With current scaling Old Shiki~Sickbeard<Oldbeard~Shanks<Primebeard~Roger~Prime Shiki<Xebec
Stronger than Roger? How.
Old Shiki~Sickbeard<Oldbeard~Shanks~<Primebeard~Roger~Prime Shiki~BASE Kaido and Big Mom

Ya'll see an issue here? That's BASE Kaido who's considered comparable to Primebeard and Roger.
No... Those are just the people he thinks are capable of fighting him

You're making an issue that don't exist
 
If 8 years ago you told me Luffy would fodderize yonko and still not be pirate king, I would have screamed cap.

Yeah… this is why I dropped this manga. I might come back when it’s over, but damn.
 
Dude, just stop with these dumb argument.
All of them were in their 30's, none of them were in their prime including roger, and whitebeard.
Your argument holds 0 value.

No crew was equal to roger, shiki literally assembled an entire fleet to threaten roger, if he was confident why'd he need an entire fleet?
He didn't assemble a fleet to fight Roger, he was known for his ****** fleet

You really think their lives revolved around beating Roger
Don't pull shit out of your ass show me where any crew outside of whitebeard was equal or stated to be equal to roger's
Nobody's worried about their ******* crews

Nobody said anything about their crews being equal, we're worrying about their captains
 
I dunno, I think "Roger's strongest adversary" being plastered all over that scan you posted last page scales him above Garp, Prime Shiki, Primebeard, and Sengoku

Then have fun with a CRT
Ok... But where's the Roger < from that?

You just completely ignored what I said............... And people liked you're comment... Bro 🙉
 
Ok... But where's the Roger < from that?

You just completely ignored what I said............... And people liked you're comment... Bro 🙉
There wasn't too much time in-between Roger getting Oden to him becoming PK to going and dying, only a few months, and since Roger fought from there... well, ya know, Xebec still got called the strongest.

You are comment?
 
There wasn't too much time in-between Roger getting Oden to him becoming PK to going and dying, only a few months, and since Roger fought from there... well, ya know, Xebec still got called the strongest.
The strongest? Where?
 
Holy f, yee you guys are too.....

I'm not wasting my time with this bs of you guys trying to find a way that what you said made sense... Because it doesn't at all

BRO IT SAYS THATS THE STRONGEST OPPONENT ROGER HAS FOUGHT... WHY THE F DOES THAT MEAN HES > ROGER, DOFFY USED TO BE LUFFY'S STRONGEST OPPONENT HE HAS FACED, DOES THAT PUT DOFFY ABOVE LUFFY? NO
 
BRO IT SAYS THATS THE STRONGEST OPPONENT ROGER HAS FOUGHT... WHY THE F DOES THAT MEAN HES > ROGER, DOFFY USED TO BE LUFFY'S STRONGEST OPPONENT HE HAS FACED, DOES THAT PUT DOFFY ABOVE LUFFY? NO
BRO, ROGER HASN'T HAD A FIGHT SINCE THAT STATEMENT WAS MADE, WE DONT KNOW FOR SURE ANYONE HE BASHED IN ESPECIALLY SINCE ITS SPEAKING GENERALLY ABOUT A DEAD MEAN OF OVER 20 YEARS

fight fire with fire amiright?
 
So... Where's this proof of xebec being stronger than Roger 🐵

Oh yee it doesn't exist

Such sad humans..
 
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