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Probably sarcastic but still, doesn't matter... Prime whitebeard > Old whitebeard ~ Shanks ~ or possibly >~ kaido ~ big mom
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Full Power Luffy vs Primebeard (8-7-1)
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Then you would've spoken truth... But you aren't.
Hellscream
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I couldn't be more sarcastic.
Anyways, people are just fanboying luffy in this thread, no proper arguments were provided whatsoever
and like you said, primebeard ***** on kaido who luffy barely beat with the help of 50 people.
And Old Wb still has the most impressive endurance feats by far that any character has shown, including the likes of kaidou
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I did
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I'm the biggest luffy fan as well 
... But that's why I seek truth, those voting for luffy are actually against luffy 
... But that's why I seek truth, those voting for luffy are actually against luffy
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Whatever you say votes won't change.
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I did
you'll always be the one who cowers in his own mind 
DaMonkeMan
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You still need poneglyphs and shit.Bro it's actually annoying af on humans just not being able to be right... I think I've said what I've needed to say... I speak truth, you either believe or you don't... Not my problem.
From vol stampede
Op Magazine
And yee, bye
Being strong doesn't matter if you don't have the necessary requirements.
In conclusion you're a loser.
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Spar me in real life then and we'll see whos the loser.
Also again just completely ignoring my argument
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Yes you do lol, ALL strong characters want them
It's literally the point of the anime
Hellscream
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Votes based on nothing you mean?
People unironically believe current luffy beats primebeard / roger
DaMonkeMan
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That's child abuse.
And they don't need to fight.
Shown by Roger dodging BM and just taking her poneglyph rubbings.
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If you speak truth, the outcome doesn't matter... The future does 
Hellscream
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Except for that he fought literally all of them, and beat all of them
What are you even trying to argue for?
DaMonkeMan
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???
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Roger and garp v rocks
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Young BM amd Kaido who werent even in their prime that time. When they formed their alliance they were stated to be at their strongest. Also there is no proof that Rocks BM and Kaido had poneglyphs that time.
Stated bottom right
Hellscream
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Pirate king is just a title which is why i vote for Foxy becoming the pirate king FRA
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Can u prove where Roger defeated Prime Big Mom and all the Emperors in their Prime and took their poneglyphs bro?
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Doesn't prove Roget beat BM or Kaido in their prime. Thats just scaling
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Hellscream
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Okay and
Neither was roger and whitebeard who are of the same age?
If they were as strong a roger of whitebeard then they would've been implied to be so
but they never were
Wtf are you even arguing for?
They don't need the poneglyphs the fact remains that the pirate king "who's just a title for show" beat and fought any notable character in his age
DaMonkeMan
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If I see another bonehead say he fought Rocks I'm gonna need y'all to lock me up before I commit some terrible crimes.
Young BM isn't Prime BM.
She. Got. Stronger.
In fact. Let me list villains who got stronger, either over time or even mid battle.
Buggy. Crocodile. Akainu. Lucci. Kaku. Shiki and Primebeard, they lost to Roger, Roger's crew, and Garp in God Valley.. But got stronger and were eventually equal to them.
It can happen. Non-protagonists and villains can get stronger. Stop with these bs arguments please and thank you VERY much.
We're saying that just raw strength doesn't get you it.
You need Poneglyphs, a translator, and a competent crew.
Young BM isn't Prime BM.
She. Got. Stronger.
In fact. Let me list villains who got stronger, either over time or even mid battle.
Buggy. Crocodile. Akainu. Lucci. Kaku. Shiki and Primebeard, they lost to Roger, Roger's crew, and Garp in God Valley.. But got stronger and were eventually equal to them.
It can happen. Non-protagonists and villains can get stronger. Stop with these bs arguments please and thank you VERY much.
Nobody said that, please stop with the strawman arguments.
We're saying that just raw strength doesn't get you it.
You need Poneglyphs, a translator, and a competent crew.
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So that claim doesnt stand then.?
Yes they need the poneglyphs tf? "Pirate King Lvl" doesnt exist
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No one is speaking to you fake monke
DaMonkeMan
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Maggot.
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Worm.
Hellscream
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Dude, just stop with these dumb argument.
All of them were in their 30's, none of them were in their prime including roger, and whitebeard.
Your argument holds 0 value.
No crew was equal to roger, shiki literally assembled an entire fleet to threaten roger, if he was confident why'd he need an entire fleet?
Don't pull shit out of your ass show me where any crew outside of whitebeard was equal or stated to be equal to roger's
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Just stop.
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Damn this thread rly got 300+ replies. While old Luffy vs WB podt had only like 33 comments. What happened
DaMonkeMan
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"Achshally Garp and Sengoku needed eachother to beat Shiki so they CAN'T be Top/God Tiers!!"
Goober.
I'm pulling shit out of my ass? Your words are equivalent to anal beads at this point.
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You didn't refute anything i said bro. Im done here
Hellscream
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Wow can you show me where it was stated that garp needed sengoku?
Shiki was attacking their HQ, why wouldn't they reply with full force?
Hellscream
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You haven't provided a single valuable argument in this entire thread, you're just a cheerleader at this point
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Bro... This is going no where... And is going away from whitebeard v luffy
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Cope
