You shouldn't worry on that front. If at all possible, both posts should be as neutral to each other as possible and I'll make that clear. And do be aware, neither of you should respond to each other or staff after the post, unless maybe if they ask for clarification, and even then it'd be clarifying your own stances.
It's an old link. The tweets were supposed to be removed ages ago with only the guidebook statements remaining.
Okay. So only the first scan in that album is being used as evidence, then? In that case, you should edit it.
The key phrase was "Needing an appropriate size to back it up." Obviously, a planet sized pocket reality that happens to have a different flow of time is not enough. But if combination of it being 3-A sized at minimum (Which outside of the flow of time arguments, the 9 dimensions are High 3-A sized on a spatial scale) which just need to put those two together and they are indeed universes.
It's referring to the fact that time manipulation powers works on characters with Immeasurable speed; which requires for time manipulation to work on an extradimensional level as Immeasurable speed characters are immune to the manipulation of linear time by default (Or immune to time slowing down, stopping, ect).
1. I think you're misreading that part - it's saying that nonlinear flows of time can exist in a single universe, so a place having a separate flow of time doesn't mean it's an entirely new space-time. It could just be an extension of a single space-time, like the DW.
I think i need to jump in about this part honestly, having different, non-linear flow of time mean having completely different time direction, which is different, separate time dimension/axis, which mean side from normal time axis that we all default to exist in a normal 3 spatial + 1 temporal dimension model, we also have another +1 different temporal dimension; and lastly an overarching timeline encompass them all, that the idea
You can think that all you want but that's not what the standards say. I don't even fully agree with what the universe page says, but it DOES say that different flows of time =\= different universes, which we have to abide by.
Gil's still a bit sick but the others asked me to tell you (and the rest of the thread) that the summary blog and arguments they're posting won't hinge on the basis of the Demon World's relative size anymore.
I don't understand why another summary blog is being posted? The last summary blog was posted like, two days ago. If they are abandoning the arguments used as the current basis for the tiering, then this should pass with the current vote. It is not at all practical after 2 months/6 pages of arguing and 11~ staff votes for the opposition present an entirely new argument and ask everyone to come and re-evaluate, and ask Fuji to argue against the new arguments, and start this whole thing over again from the very top. They should be asked to do so in a separate CRT attempting to re-upgrade, rather than delay this for even longer.
And enough back-and-forth, staff vote changes and the like happened that we've gotten here, with staff split between agree, disagree and neutrality. The entire point is that when Fuji and Gil post their threads, I can call in all the neutral staff for it that don't want to deal with 600 messages and we can get a decisive decision on it. Cause we're not really passing a thread on a 4-6-1 vote spread.
That literally already happened on Sunday, when Gilver posted his summary blog, KLOL called in the staff, and you said it wasn't prudent to conclude the thread given the opposition had just posted a summary blog for staff to evaluate.
Their current stance.... doesn't involve your downgrade though. That's the point. They're not and won't be arguing the "Ray of Light" aspect. This is why I suggested that point, since the original argument has veered so off course and no one wants to go through it for that many pages, it can either be summarized here (seriously, even Ultima didn't address the higher temporal dimension aspect) or it can be its own thread since it involves logic this OP doesn't cover.
Then why would it be posted here?
Except, again, multiple people have read the blog and still agreed with the OP, including Ultima. You can't just keep delaying the outcome of this thread indefinitely because it isn't going your way - regardless of what arguments DMC supporters have presented, a majority of staff has disagreed with them.
Exactly why I posed that question to you. They can either summarize it here now and not have to make a thread immediately after this one is closed or just do that. Frankly, I'm not against it being moved to an entirely different thread since a mix-and-match of arguments helps no one, but ultimately that's up to how Gilver wants to deal with this.
Ultima didn't address the temporal dimension argument, just that the Demon World being that much bigger is no longer up to snuff for the standards, which is fair. That's my point. Your OP has that many votes for it....for a stance that's no longer something being defended by the opposition.
But it's the stance these profiles are based on. If it's being abandoned by verse supporters and outvoted by staff, then Fuji should apply this.
He doesn't need to address anything. He read the blog. He disagreed with it. If you cannot accept that, then that's not my problem.
I mean sure, I suppose. Seems unneeded to handle it all elsewhere to me but it's what it is.
I'd say just handle it on another thread, yeah. It's not a big issue.
It should be resolved now. The opposition is no longer supporting the reasoning used for the profiles, and is preparing new reasoning that will be handled in a different thread. The vote of the existing arguments is in Fujis favor.
I need to apply the edits first.
How long will that take you?
I believe she needs the profiles unlocked. If she can list the profiles she needs opened can you unlock them?
Which ones?
All unlocked.
Book of Demons remains locked.
Fixed.
