@Eficiente the only way in hell Frisk's durability for immense DT isn't Low 2-C is if Asriel isn't Low 2-C. Because Frisk literally face-tanked Asriel blasting them at full power and not holding back.
So, needless to say this has to be a reply to the comment where I replied to the stuff in the thread, because the comment before this one didn't talk about this bit. I already said that while I disagree with it, there is at least a decent argument to be made about it, so, I'm gonna prioritize to deal with the rest of the chaos here assuming that's not just going to be pushed to be added anyway.
@Eficiente oh and get off your pony, just because your staff doesn't give you the right to disrespect others, in fact it means you should be an example for how to behave, what is a random person just visiting supposed to believe when a staff is just disrespecting the average user?
"Oh the staff here are Aholes, I probably don't want to be a part of the community."
Is that the message you want to send Efi? Really?
Well, you are in part correct there, no random person should come to the wiki and see that, but disrespect towards
what would I be giving? You say others these but it's not them as persons, what I do admit I disrespected before was their punctual opinions over things going on in the wiki. That's not the same at all and it's highly interpretable. Now, what is not interpretable is the reaction to it being claims of me having meant certain things I didn't or believing certain things I don't, like you in that quote very much implying that "just because [I'm a] staff" I would have the "right to disrespect others", and that being 1 of the many, many things thrown around. Those not-interpretable claims towards me I could take as disrespectful, and I do imagine sometimes come via malice or dishonesty to get a CRT across, but I also know they can just be misunderstandings and come out of innocence, so I don't care much beyond pointing out what I don't belive or meant.
Aye aye aye, i just pointed out what was probably an unthoughtful wording choice and asked not to do that no more, i didn't tell everyone to start writing paragraphs about "top 10 reasons why efi is disrespectful".
He may disrespect the opinion but he didn't specifically disrespect us besides the one wording choice, i ain't here to start a witch hunt.
I'm just seeing this after having just wrote something like it. That's good to hear.
bro, its not the first time, he even once said that ''normal users doesnt think as staff''
This raises both of my eyebrows, can you link it to me on a private message? Also, if I had and heck even I was intentionally & purely malicius about it (which no), that wouldn't recontextualize things for me for what I said to be way worst than the words I used and have shown to believe so far, not for nothing I can repeatedly see a potential bias against me when things like this happen, and 2 wrongs don't make a right.
No one is witch hunting him, we're pointing out how disrespectful he's being. He's being overly argumentative despite literally everyone else involved agreeing with Low 2-C durability and refuses to keep trying to argue, instead relying on his staff position to say we're wrong because we aren't staff, and stating that we lack common sense, which is quite literally insulting our intelligence, regardless of whether or not it's direct, while even stating that we're bias and will never listen to him no matter what he says, acting as if we've been arguing with him for weeks even though there's not even a hundred messages about the topic in total. Extremely cringy.
This for instance I would see as wrong through innocence, with no disrespect meant. It doesn't matter how many people believe something next to if other person believes something else, it doesn't make sense for me to keep arguing when the disagreement to what I said is pretty much "I agree with the other's take", I would be talking for no reason and saying the same twice, I explicitly didn't rely on my position as a staff nor did anything that would imply that, let alone use that to say non-staff are wrong. Well, I do technically stated a lack of common sense on "you", but wording it like that is super dishonest, "I take something I believe as common sense and express that in a place where others disagree with it", that's not something bad to do that shouldn't be done or disallowed to happen or that should need an apology every time it happens to those who felt disrespected for it, I just gave an opinion, really. "Quite literally insulting [your] intelligence" like you say would be quite literally saying that others, as persons, are dumb or something, you even then point out that it's not direct which goes against what you just said of it being quite literally that, the victimization and drama taken from is clear. I didn't really say that you "will never listen to [me] no matter what" I say (on everything), just that in 1 thing claimed over 3 threads I don't believe I can change the minds of those believing that. Idk for how long those other 2 threads were. It's not "Extremely cringy", they're many things misunderstood due to lack of text comprehension.
Eficiente is the physical embodiment of "I am above you and you mean nothing" here. Shocked he got staff.
I mean, I always argued to that being embodiment of something shouldn't give characters a tier based on it or powers over it unless proven, and that it's just some title/category that's given, so sure why not, if you want to say I'm that then I'm that from your point of view.
It's also super absurd and clearly meant to dishonestly degrade me as well as pointless derailment to get the upgrades done.
