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Frisk Low 2-C Upgrade
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Okay. Thank you for the evaluation. This seems to have been accepted then. Should we use JKM's suggestion or straight Low 2-C durability?
Also, everybody stop picking on Eficiente. He is just trying to do his job as a staff member.
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idk it just makes sense to me for their physical strength to be boosted as well when their durability is boosted all the way to universal+, their speed seems to be boosted too according to their profile and they even gain the ability to add extra healing items to their inventory and just straight up heal themselves, unknown for their AP is probably the best option imo
I don't know what this "JKM's suggestion" is but straight low 2-C durability is pretty clear
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9-B is my final choice so yeh
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Yeah, Low 2-C durability with 9-B (possibly higher) AP works.
If I was one of those people, I apologize.
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To AP?
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Why else would I be mentioning it?
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Explain please
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What I meant to say is Frisk being Low 2-C in durability seems more likely than in general (well at least for now) because they haven't shown in feats of being able to damage people like Asriel. However if Omega/Photoshop Flowey does get a Low 2-C tier in the future, I'm fine with Low 2-C Frisk in general as they can damage them (Even if the damage is peanuts). (Sorry for my awful wording from my previous comment if that was the reason you wanted an explanation, I'm not good at explaining things/getting my words out correctly/grammar at times)
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Thats not a good argument after all, Frisk not being able to hurt Asriel just means that Frisk AP doesnt scales to Low 2-C, which is the reason that we are debating about it being either Unknown or 9-B likely higher, why would it envolve Dura that has blatant Low 2-C feats?
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I agree with the dura upgrade.
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Based on the evidence this seems like the perfect take-away from this thread to me.
Frisk as a Stone Wall makes a lot of sense.
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Oh then I totally misread/misunderstood what we were debating at the moment, my bad. Yeah I agree with Unknown.
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This isn't the same frisk that can be harmed by people like Sans, this is the frisk that has enough determination to Ressurect mid-fight and stand to Asriel
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Frisk in the end of pacifist route in the asriel fight was really really determinated as it never was before, Frisk had a immense amount of Hopes and Dreams, it isnt the same frisk in the genocide route
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Forgive me if I'm ignorant, but in what instance does a monster harm Frisk physically?
If I recall correctly, they all attack them with soul-based attacks.
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in the mtt ex fight if you pose with low hp it says "despite being hurt/wounded, you pose dramatically"
if it were only soul-based and not physical harm, then frisk shouldn't be physically strained
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also toriel says "not a scratch on you" if you clear the ruins with full hp, implying that frisk would have wounds on their body if they had gotten hurt
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I'm guessing that's the basis by which we scale stats at all rather than simply calling it soul-hax resistance?
If that's the case, then the others are right, and the Frisk at the end of the game has extremely high determination.
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just tagging if people didnt saw
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Frisk being hurt by others characters during the game is not an anti feat, since, Frisk becomes stronger with high amount of determination that him/her/it has, and during Asriel fight, Frisk was heavily determinated with a big amount of hopes and dreams
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ye it's generally agreed upon that frisk is more determined against stronger opponents, and they themselves get stronger the more determined they are, that's even the case on their profile rn "higher with greater levels of Determination"
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Yeah, like undyne, undyne was one shotted by genocide frisk, but with determination, she could tank several attacks from genocide frisk
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and frisk in pacifist is faaar more determined than undyne was there
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Yeah
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Physical, Frisk never had a force field
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There is 0 proof of a forcefield, Occam's Razor tells us its physical and spiritual damage
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Yeah, Frisk never showed any force field in the game after all
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Thats common in fiction XD, Undertale characters become stronger with Determination, Undyne was one shotted by genocide Frisk, but when Undyne had determination, she could tank several attacks
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It is, but fiction is wierd like that
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And the same thing can be noticed in a lot of shounen verses
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the spiral energy from gurren lagann is just supernatural willpower on steroids and that scales
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not only is this fiction, this is undertale lol
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