Undertale Monsters Downgrade + Additional abilities for many characters

[Monsters_fight]

I made the ≈ on purpose to make it more readable under conventional numbers.

Also, I think monsters whose stats are 2-17 should be High 8-C+ and not "At most High 8-C+"
When the Flowey calc was 8-B (17.78 Tons of TNT) it was only 1.616 times bigger than Baseline 8-B,
but now the feat is 7.28 Tons of TNT, which is 3.64 times bigger than the Baseline High 8-C, so I think these monsters should be only High 8-C

0-1: Small Building Level (sad)
2 and beyond: High 8-C+
Full power of Human Soul: 7-C

What do you think?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Also, I think monsters whose stats are 2-17 should be High 8-C+ and not "At most High 8-C+"
When the Flowey calc was 8-B (17.78 Tons of TNT) it was only 1.616 times bigger than Baseline 8-B,
but now the feat is 7.28 Tons of TNT, which is 3.64 times bigger than the Baseline High 8-C, so I think these monsters should be only High 8-C

0-1: Small Building Level (sad)
2 and beyond: High 8-C+
Full power of Human Soul: 7-C

What do you think?

No .

"At most" is always used to determine a significant downscale, just like "At least" is used for upscales.

By this logic we'd have to remove "At least" by Asgore, Toriel and Undying because they're not reaching the next tier.

At most should remain because it's how the Wiki works.

 

[Monsters_fight]

No .

"At most" is always used to determine a significant downscale, just like "At least" is used for upscales.

By this logic we'd have to remove "At least" by Asgore, Toriel and Undying because they're not reaching the next tier.

At most should remain because it's how the Wiki works.

Ok then

 

[Theuser789]

Well, if the downgraded is calc is accepted, I agree.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Bump

 

[Ti58]

Literally everything points at Flowey doing that, give more evidence outside "I don't think so".

I'm not sure if there's anything suggesting Flowey moved the elevator by himself instead of using the elevator's function as an elevator (it should be able to go from the lab to New Home due to how elevators Underground work)

Sounds hyperbolic but given the size of the backgrounds of New Home and Hotland, I'd argue that's ok for the number to be nerfed to 2000.

Okay

 

[StrymULTRA]

I'm not sure if there's anything suggesting Flowey moved the elevator by himself instead of using the elevator's function as an elevator (it should be able to go from the lab to New Home due to how elevators Underground work)

The elevator abnormally moved super fast then we see vines wrapped around the door.

Occam's razor says it's Flowey.

 

[Monsters_fight]

@Planck69 @Just_a_Random_Butler
Sorry if I'm disturbing but could you please evaluate this CRT?

 

[StrymULTRA]

@Planck69 @Just_a_Random_Butler
Sorry if I'm disturbing but could you please evaluate this CRT?

You can't ping people as you're not staff

 

[Monsters_fight]

You can't ping people as you're not staff

O h

 

[StrymULTRA]

O h

You'll have to bump message walls.

Just avoid bumping that over two times, there it's clear they don't want to.

 

[Bernkastelll]

They dont. They only have Resistance to Extreme Heat

This is weird because Frisk used to have it, even before Frisk/Chara stuff were separated lol into different profiles lol, someone must have removed it for some reason

 

[Planck69]

The current additions seem fine to me.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Ok so...

7.28 * 2000 = 14560 Tons/14.56 Kilotons, which is 7-C

However, I don't think that assuming that all the monsters being that high is a good indicator because we see more monsters other than the ones we fight, and some are 9-A on top of that (Sans, Jerry and Alphys), so what to do? Assuming a 50/50 between 9-A and High 8-C+ monsters:

• 0.008803 * 1000 = 8.803 Tons
• 7.28 * 1000 = 7280 Tons
• 8.803 + 7280 = 7287.803 Tons or ≈ 7.29 Kilotons

Still 7-C. Up to the staff to decide which end to use.

Which end works best (assuming the 12000 multiplier doesn't work given those are ratings instead of viewers, but there's a confirmed number of 2000+)?

The current additions seem fine to me.

 

[Planck69]

Which end works best (assuming the 12000 multiplier doesn't work given those are ratings instead of viewers, but there's a confirmed number of 2000+)?

The confirmed end works better.

 

[StrymULTRA]

The confirmed end works better.

I mean between everyone being High 8-C+ or 50/50 between High 8-C+ and 9-A.

 

[Planck69]

I mean between everyone being High 8-C+ or 50/50 between High 8-C+ and 9-A.

Obviously not every monster is High 8-C+. The 50/50 split makes more sense to me.

 

[Elizhaa]

I am fine with Planck69's evalautions.

 

[Monsters_fight]

I mean between everyone being High 8-C+ or 50/50 between High 8-C+ and 9-A.

Will you take care of Flowey´s, Frisk´s, and Chara´s profiles again?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Will you take care of Flowey´s, Frisk´s, and Chara´s profiles again?

I don't know, won't be able to get on my PC until tonight.

 

[Monsters_fight]

I don't know, won't be able to get on my PC until tonight.

Ok. I will go to school now. In 4 hours I´ll start applying the changes on the pages

 

[Monsters_fight]

Ok so...

7.28 * 2000 = 14560 Tons/14.56 Kilotons, which is 7-C

However, I don't think that assuming that all the monsters being that high is a good indicator because we see more monsters other than the ones we fight, and some are 9-A on top of that (Sans, Jerry and Alphys), so what to do? Assuming a 50/50 between 9-A and High 8-C+ monsters:

• 0.008803 * 1000 = 8.803 Tons
• 7.28 * 1000 = 7280 Tons
• 8.803 + 7280 = 7287.803 Tons or ≈ 7.29 Kilotons

Still 7-C. Up to the staff to decide which end to use.

Undertale: Human SOUL scaling redux

vsbattles.fandom.com

Please edit this page with all of this info

 

[Monsters_fight]

I don't know, won't be able to get on my PC until tonight.

I finished editing 53 pages. I think I´ve made NO mistakes this time.
Try to update the Human Soul page with the 7.29 Kilotons ending and if you can give Aura/Social Influencing to Flowey and Resistence to Extreme Cold to Frisk and Chara

 

[Monsters_fight]

I finished editing 53 pages. I think I´ve made NO mistakes this time.
Try to update the Human Soul page with the 7.29 Kilotons ending and if you can give Aura/Social Influencing to Flowey and Resistence to Extreme Cold to Frisk and Chara

I made a few mistakes like writing "Level" instead of "level", but don't worry I have fixed everything

 

[StrymULTRA]

Try to update the Human Soul page with the 7.29 Kilotons ending and if you can give Aura/Social Influencing to Flowey and Resistence to Extreme Cold to Frisk and Chara

You really did not ask to unlock the pages? lol

 

[Monsters_fight]

You really did not ask to unlock the pages? lol

I mean, I was editing the other 53 pages, but fine.
I will ask to unlock them and I will take care of them.
In the meantime, you should update this.
Once we are done I will ask to close this CRT

 

[Monsters_fight]

You really did not ask to unlock the pages? lol

You know what? You were right. Frisk´s Chara´s Asriel´s and The Player´s pages shouldn't be locked. Only Sans should be

 

[StrymULTRA]

You know what? You were right. Frisk´s Chara´s Asriel´s and The Player´s pages shouldn't be locked. Only Sans should be

Nah, leave them be locked.

They're still the most viewed ones in UT.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Finally did everything, I think.

Also I fixed few details like some outdated calcs still being on the profiles or redundant info being removed.

 

[Monsters_fight]

Finally did everything, I think.

Also I fixed few details like some outdated calcs still being on the profiles or redundant info being removed.

Frisk still has "Tier 8-B" on their profile

 

[StrymULTRA]

Frisk still has "Tier 8-B" on their profile

Right, fixed.

 

[Monsters_fight]

Right, fixed.

If everything is done now then this CRT can be closed

 

[StrymULTRA]

Oh yeah I did forgot to make the Class 25 thing for MTT (it's very minor but should be done nontheless).

Done that too, this can be closed.