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Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread
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speedster352
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It's on their profile
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It seems that ByAsura was the one to give Chandler and Cussack Purgatory Resistances but I don't know why.
speedster352
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I mean it's not too far-fetched to say high-ranking demons can have it.
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Meliodas wasn't even physically in Purgatory though, and didn't he turn into a Purgatory beast after how many years he was in there?
speedster352
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He only got turned when he lost all hope of returning.
speedster352
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What about my other points?
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Still doesn't mean any other demon scales because still Meliodas' body was never physically there
Iirc the only people who were physically in Purgatory are 50% DK, Ban, and the
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I already gave my opinion on Darkness Powernull. I'm neutral on Unholy Manipulation
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Agree with giving all demons Unholy Manipulation and High-Ranking demons Power Nullification.
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Alright just say this in rabbit NNT crt part 2
speedster352
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Why are you neutral?
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Because he doesn't agree or disagree
speedster352
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Yeah but why it's the case for almost all demons in fiction
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Are you sure about that?
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Unholy Manipulation is the power to control and generate energies, elements, objects and entities that have been deemed hellish, demonic or unholy, forces that are connected with demons, evil spirits and anti-gods. The opposed power to Holy Manipulation.
Unless you can find a demonic character who doesn't apply to any of these things stated above then pretty much all demonic/devilsh creatures would have Unholy Manipulation just inherently.
Unless you can find a demonic character who doesn't apply to any of these things stated above then pretty much all demonic/devilsh creatures would have Unholy Manipulation just inherently.
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Zagred
Zagred 「ザグレド Zagredo」 masterminded the corruption of Licht's grimoire into a five-leaf grimoire, the human royals' plot to kill the Elf Tribe and steal their mana, and the reincarnation of the elves. He possesses the reincarnated Baval then Ronne to oversee Patry completing the ritual to summon...
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Hell Knight
The Hell Knight (or Knight of Hell, if you prefer) is a subordinate to the Baron of Hell and is comparable to it in physical strength. These beings are eyeless and malformed, maintaining a completely flat face (although they function very well). Tier: 9-A | 9-A | At least 8-C Key: Classic | Doom...
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Baron of Hell
A Baron takes the appearance of a muscular, biped goat-like demon with pinkish head and torso, and tan legs with black hooves. Its hands are covered with a slight greenish tinge, but it becomes more pronounced when it launches green fireballs. Tier: 9-A | At least 8-C | At least 8-C, likely far...
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Zagred actually has Unholy Manipulation but since his profile sucks dick and balls it hasn't been added yet, it's being added when Clover's Physiology thread is done.
Samething with Zagred, both should have Unholy Manipulation but since the profiles are out of date they don't have them.
Samething with Zagred, both should have Unholy Manipulation but since the profiles are out of date they don't have them.
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And what's the reason for him having, I hope it's not just him being called a demon
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So what does it do other than being called unholy? Does cause negative effects to things, people, the environment, etc.
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Melascula is an example for that I guess
speedster352
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Also assualt mode Meliodas Miasma and demon blood
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Possible Uses Of Unholy Manipulation
Empowerment: Users obtain inhuman levels of strength, speed, stamina, and even increase one's mental and spiritual capabilities by being empowered by evil entities. Few users can even become a vessel for a greater evil.
Example: Fraudrin and Dreyfus (Vessel) (Fraudrin empowered Dreyfus, and even gave him his Size Manipulation ability), Demon Blood (Empowers those who drink it), Commandments (Give abilities and increases power)
Thaumaturgy: Call upon the power of demons and devils through prayer and rituals, and perform "miracles".
Example: None
Summoning: Synchronize the power with lesser unholy entities, either for combat purposes, induce curses or possessing others.
Example: The Commandments (Various harmful abilities), Fraudrin (Possession)
Corruption: Turns the purest soul and twist the clearest mind by inducing sin and vice into the heart. Some times, converting beings into demons, devil or other types of evil spirit its possible.
Example: Demon Blood (Turned Holy Knights into Demons), Commandments (Made Mael insane), and Greyroad/Grey Road (Can turn individuals who kill into demons)
Energy/Elemental Manipulation: Generate, shape and control the innate energies, elements, and matter innate from the depts of hell, such hellfire, faust water, cursed earth, and corrupted light, as there's no element that can't be considered unholy. Due to their esoteric nature, these forces may be capable to directly affect the soul of the target, ignoring conventional durability and protections.
Example: Hellblaze (Doesn't quickly go out and can neg Regeneration)
Empowerment: Users obtain inhuman levels of strength, speed, stamina, and even increase one's mental and spiritual capabilities by being empowered by evil entities. Few users can even become a vessel for a greater evil.
Example: Fraudrin and Dreyfus (Vessel) (Fraudrin empowered Dreyfus, and even gave him his Size Manipulation ability), Demon Blood (Empowers those who drink it), Commandments (Give abilities and increases power)
Thaumaturgy: Call upon the power of demons and devils through prayer and rituals, and perform "miracles".
Example: None
Summoning: Synchronize the power with lesser unholy entities, either for combat purposes, induce curses or possessing others.
Example: The Commandments (Various harmful abilities), Fraudrin (Possession)
Corruption: Turns the purest soul and twist the clearest mind by inducing sin and vice into the heart. Some times, converting beings into demons, devil or other types of evil spirit its possible.
Example: Demon Blood (Turned Holy Knights into Demons), Commandments (Made Mael insane), and Greyroad/Grey Road (Can turn individuals who kill into demons)
Energy/Elemental Manipulation: Generate, shape and control the innate energies, elements, and matter innate from the depts of hell, such hellfire, faust water, cursed earth, and corrupted light, as there's no element that can't be considered unholy. Due to their esoteric nature, these forces may be capable to directly affect the soul of the target, ignoring conventional durability and protections.
Example: Hellblaze (Doesn't quickly go out and can neg Regeneration)
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I think it's ok unholy manipulation for demon clan, we have goddess clan who have ability based on holy light manipulation, and demon clan is opposite of goddess clan who use purely darkness. Iirc red demon hendy ever said when he fight meliodas, that goddess and druid is hate demon clan because they are unnatural state or something
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Also darkness counts as elemental manipulation
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NGL IMO, that's not enough
"Group X uses Light Manipulation and has Holy Manipulation, therefore Group Y should have Unholy Manipulation because they're the opposite and can use Darkness, and Group Y is said to be unnatural"
What would be great would be a list of feats to go with the statements to solidify it, such as:
Group Y should have Unholy Manipulation because they're able to do this (Corrupt, Posses, etc.) and that (Empower, Summoning, etc.). They're also stated to be Blah, Blah, Blah, Demon, Opposite, Dark, etc.
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Would The Rituals for Soul Manipulation count?
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Who does it and what does it do?
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Red Demons and Grey demons, Melascula I think and basically just extracts the souls
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I'm glad you guys are keeping NNT/4KotA alive here as well as consistently updating the verse (which I appreciate).
Like I've mentioned in the past I got burned out after all the wasted potential in NNT manga not to mention the anime adaption that was... disappointing in the end (and never really recovered).
Perhaps one day I might be motivated to be actively interested in the verse again but until then I'll observing it from a distance (I don't want to be burned again tbh).
Keep up the excellent work!
Like I've mentioned in the past I got burned out after all the wasted potential in NNT manga not to mention the anime adaption that was... disappointing in the end (and never really recovered).
Perhaps one day I might be motivated to be actively interested in the verse again but until then I'll observing it from a distance (I don't want to be burned again tbh).
Keep up the excellent work!
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Oh the soul extraction, I can understand Melascula because she has an advanced form of soul extraction done through a ritual, but don't other demons just do their soul extraction by doing a sucking action?
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I'm not sure but they site an incantation before extracting it
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[Shrugs] So long as they do an incantation I guess
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So you agree now? Go to the NNT crt part 2 by rabbit
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