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Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

Does Nakaba recton Healing magic of Goddess ? Tristan stated that his healing cannot work on illness while in QnA said it could heal illness
 
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Rabbit2002 said:
Does Nakaba recton Healing magic of Goddess ? Tristan stated that his healing cannot work on illness while in QnA said it could heal illness
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Maybe tristan is a special case, considering he's half demon and half goddess, maybe that's why he has a limitation in his healing. Or maybe he isn't really on par with the other goddesses yet
 
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Aether_ said:
Maybe tristan is a special case, considering he's half demon and half god, maybe that's why he has a limitation in his healing. Or maybe he isn't really on par with the other goddesses yet
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Hard to say, he's a goddess with 4 wings so I thought he could do it easily but yeah maybe you right, it possible due to his half demon and goddess
 
i thought soo too BUT.. he also said to ask his mother which means hes not as good as a healer as LIZ which we can assume its cuz hes a hybird or just sucks at healing magic
 
Rabbit2002 said:
Well, now we know Per can absorb others' life force, it seem to fit his role in 4KOA
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Let's see how his powers evolves, I don't like the massive restrictions on his Hope but we will see if he can pass that in the future.

However, it seems that his death/life drain powers don't need external factors in order to work, he just doesn't know how to use it yet at will and it is more dangerous than his Hope magic.
 
Rabbit2002 said:
Does Nakaba recton Healing magic of Goddess ? Tristan stated that his healing cannot work on illness while in QnA said it could heal illness
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He thought that it was an illness, however it could be a powerful curse or unknown power related to the Apocalypse power of Percival that only him can undo it?
 
I disagree with my arguments about the DK stuff there, but I still think Mael's dispersion timeframe is short.
 
The stuff about them one-shotting Britannia. Merlin outright says that isn't the case for 2 of them.
 
Yeah im pretty sure the whole stuff was going to be overtime(the process could've sped up faster if both used full power which is why it actually makes sense that Meliodas never went full power in his battle against the prime Demon king)
 
Majinere566 said:
Yeah im pretty sure the whole stuff was going to be overtime(the process could've sped up faster if both used full power which is why it actually makes sense that Meliodas never went full power in his battle against the prime Demon king)
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NOT once... and not only that... they dont want britnna/earth to be destroyed anyways.. their main goal is to stop the age of chaos . mel could've solo'd demon king just by going true magic form
 
ByAsura said:
I have to disagree.

Gilthunder and Hendrickson are weaker than Ban. The reason they trade blows with Mel is because all knights use weapons similar to Sacred Treasures.

They can still damage him without weapons, though.
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I'm confused on what part you're disagreeing on but I have to disagree on the sacred treasure like statements

My memory is not the best but if I remember correctly Sacred Treasure were given to the 7 deadly sins specifically and was crafted by Dubs. For the Holy knights to have a weapon similar to that isn't stated or referenced in the series, from my knowledge they only use normal weapons

And yeah they're all relative to Meliodas, one isn't inherently stronger until like maybe Grey Demon Hendrickson
 
It is stated in the series. Check the high-level holy knight section.

Dubs made these weapons 3,000 years ago, so it's possible that technology improved to be on par with stuff he makes (albeit inferior to his best work).

Damaging him just puts them on some kind of similar level. Ban and even Ruin can damage Meliodas too. It doesn't mean they're relative.
 
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ByAsura said:
It is stated in the series. Check the high-level holy knight section.

Dubs made these weapons 3,000 years ago, so it's possible that technology improved to be on par with stuff he makes (albeit inferior to his best work).

Damaging him just puts them on some kind of similar level. Ban and even Ruin can damage Meliodas too. It doesn't mean they're relative.
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Oh I see what you mean

Isn't Dubs hailed to be the greatest craftsman even in cursed by light?

And I'm still confused on what part of the sandbox you're talking about
 
Hendrickson's ratings. Just put him as 'at most City level+ normally, Mountain level with Weaponry' for being inferior to Ban, but not too far below Meliodas, and comparable to him with weapons.
 
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Hendrickson's ratings. Just put him as 'at most City level+ normally, Mountain level with Weaponry' for being inferior to Ban, but not too far below Meliodas, and comparable to him with weapons.
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So At most City level + for base and a Mountain rating for weaponry?

And what about the High 7-A stuff?
 
Nobody would scale to High 7-A. Base Meliodas is not even 2x baseline 7-A, and you'd need to be 10x baseline to reach High 7-A.
 
Here's an idea for Galand, though.

Albion can survive their Full Counters with moderate damage and scale to Grey Hendrickson, who's 2x Meliodas/RD Hendrickson.

Lostvayne Meliodas could already massively damage Albion without even activating his Demon Mark and merely using air slashes. His mark scales to, albeit somewhat below, Grey Hendrickson for harming him and is therefore a roughly 2x multiplier.

However, Meliodas with a Berserker vastly stronger form than his Demon Mark couldn't begin to damage Galand.

To put this fully into perspective.
  • Ban is 63.7748111855 megatons.
  • Meliodas is 127.549622371 megatons.
  • Hendrickson/Albion/Demon Mark Meliodas (albeit the latter is weaker to some extent) is 255.099244742 megatons.
  • Meliodas with Lostvayne scales above Albion's Full Countered attacks, making him 510.198489484 megatons.
  • Berserker Meliodas scales above his own Demon Mark, making Losvayne in this state over 1.02039697897 gigatons.
  • Galand couldn't be harmed by Lostvayne and described his power as pathetic.
Substantiating this scaling, Diane is stronger than Meliodas even at near-human sizes, but couldn't even harm Hendrickson with Gideon. Yet her post-training form with a pl of 8,000 could one-shot an Albion, and Berserker Meliodas' power level exceeded 10,000.

I'm thinking At least Large Mountain level (Grossly overwhelmed Berserker Meliodas, who couldn't even damage him with Lostvayne), possibly far higher (Despite having the lowest overall power level of the Ten Commandments, he shouldn't be astronomically inferior to them)
 
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ByAsura said:
Here's an idea for Galand, though.

Albion can survive their Full Counters with moderate damage and scale to Grey Hendrickson, who's 2x Meliodas/RD Hendrickson.

Lostvayne Meliodas could already massively damage Albion without even activating his Demon Mark and merely using air slashes. His mark scales to, albeit somewhat below, Grey Hendrickson for harming him and is therefore a roughly 2x multiplier.

However, Meliodas with a Berserker vastly stronger form than his Demon Mark couldn't begin to damage Galand.

To put this fully into perspective.
  • Ban is 63.7748111855 megatons.
  • Meliodas is 127.549622371 megatons.
  • Hendrickson/Albion/Demon Mark Meliodas (albeit the latter is weaker to some extent) is 255.099244742 megatons.
  • Meliodas with Lostvayne scales above Albion's Full Countered attacks, making him 510.198489484 megatons.
  • Berserker Meliodas scales above his own Demon Mark, making Losvayne in this state over 1.02039697897 gigatons.
  • Galand couldn't be harmed by Lostvayne and described his power as pathetic.
Substantiating this scaling, Diane is stronger than Meliodas even at near-human sizes, but couldn't even harm Hendrickson with Gideon. Yet her post-training form with a pl of 8,000 could one-shot an Albion, and Berserker Meliodas' power level exceeded 10,000.

I'm thinking At least Large Mountain level (Grossly overwhelmed Berserker Meliodas, who couldn't even damage him with Lostvayne), possibly far higher (Despite having the lowest overall power level of the Ten Commandments, he shouldn't be astronomically inferior to them)
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Didn't RD hendrickson survive his FC attack with no damage? Can you use that to scale? What about Gil surviving his FC attack?
 
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