Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

[Zezu1995]

its crazy reality manipulation didnt counter that time stop xd

 

[Alsotime]

its crazy reality manipulation didnt counter that time stop xd

Was the timestop ever actually used on Cath or was that just in the vision? If he didn’t break out of the timestop then why does he have timestop resistance?

 

[Zezu1995]

Was the timestop ever actually used on Cath or was that just in the vision? If he didn’t break out of the timestop then why does he have timestop resistance?

the vision is real tho , and its more like the spell wore off im guess she didnt cast inf on it

 

[Alsotime]

the vision is real tho , and its more like the spell wore off im guess she didnt cast inf on it

That’s my point, if he didn’t break out of the timestop in the vision and he didn’t have timestop used against him at all during the present timeline’s fight why would he get timestop resistance?

Time Stop (Broke out of Merlin's time stop spell)

Even if the arguement was made that his chaos powers caused the spell to wear off eventually it wouldn’t be combat applicable because the spell lasted for many years

 

[Rabbit2002]

He didn’t actually break out of the timestop did he? Atleast not immediately, In the future he showed Meliodas it lasted many years before he broke free.
Is it ever stated that he broke out of Merlin’s timestop and then used the ability on Meliodas?

Merlin used a spell to stop time, and the spell only stopped Cath to move for a moment because he can resist it and few minutes later he was moving normally.

 

[Rabbit2002]

the vision is real tho , and its more like the spell wore off im guess she didnt cast inf on it

Merlin is a careful person, Cath is also very dangerous and Merlin know that, if she didn't cast inf on it, it will be worse if Cath harms Arthur.

 

[Rabbit2002]

I guess if it not clearly about he broke out the spell in few minute so I will put it possible

 

[Alsotime]

Merlin used a spell to stop time, and the spell only stopped Cath to move for a moment because he can resist it and few minutes later he was moving normally.

That isn’t what happened, iirc the whole sequence of cath being frozen is in the possible reality that he showed Meliodas, even in that possible future the time stop lasted for years before it ended.

 

[Nacht]

Foreshadow - Cath vs Meliodas =
Arthur vs Meliodas in 4koa. I hope so

 

[speedster352]

Not yet it's need to be evaluated, so far only 1 person has done that

For the ocean calc maybe you shouldn't use real-life ocean

 

[Rabbit2002]

That isn’t what happened, iirc the whole sequence of cath being frozen is in the possible reality that he showed Meliodas, even in that possible future the time stop lasted for years before it ended.

I have check that chapter again, I guess maybe you right

 

[Nacht]

yhwach from Bleach was Universal, By natural devastation. But I checked it now, and they took that away. Couldn't Meliodas be a small country because of that too?

 

[speedster352]

yhwach from Bleach was Universal, By natural devastation. But I checked it now, and they took that away. Couldn't Meliodas be a small country because of that too?

Yes but they keep saying it's over time

 

[Nacht]

Ooh sad. Akira from the other nakaba manga is continental, that's amazing.

 

[Lormac_CC]

For the ocean calc maybe you shouldn't use real-life ocean

It was used

 

[Lormac_CC]

Just saw the calc and I see someone saying we can't use a real ocean. Data book calls it ocean, the character who created called it an ocean, the author has stated the world is based on real life, the verse has also been shown to use worlds like river, lake. I don't get the proof they are looking for, they need the author to come to the wiki and clarify that it is an ocean

 

[Lormac_CC]

At least saying it is inconsistent is better

 

[Majinere566]

Just saw the calc and I see someone saying we can't use a real ocean. Data book calls it ocean, the character who created called it an ocean, the author has stated the world is based on real life, the verse has also been shown to use worlds like river, lake. I don't get the proof they are looking for, they need the author to come to the wiki and clarify that it is an ocean

They're saying it's because "we don't know the size, it's an unproven boast" How does that work? Oceans have a very specific set of size and it would go against Tarmiel's narrative to not create an ocean. But this site so hellbent on accepting it. Then they go ahead and accept the average dimensions of an ocean...

 

[Lormac_CC]

saying it's because "we don't know the size,

Then every calc that uses sizes that are comparable to real life should be rejected as they can't tell the actual size. Is Ant even listening to himself.

Then they go ahead and accept the average dimensions of an ocean..

I doubt they would accept that.

 

[Majinere566]

Then every calc that uses sizes that are comparable to real life should be rejected as they can't tell the actual size. Is Ant even listening to himself.

Exactly for example they use Earth's GBE as a common reference for Planet destruction despite being 7 other Planets but an ocean being stated to be an Ocean isn't acceptable.

I doubt they would accept that.

The High 7-A uses an average ocean measurements and they accepted it. It even has more assumptions than just using the smallest ocean.

 

[speedster352]

Exactly for example they use Earth's GBE as a common reference for Planet destruction despite being 7 other Planets but an ocean being stated to be an Ocean isn't acceptable.

The High 7-A uses an average ocean measurements and they accepted it. It even has more assumptions than just using the smallest ocean.

But why the artic ocean isn't it mostly glaciers and ice?

 

[Majinere566]

But why the artic ocean isn't it mostly glaciers and ice?

Wym

 

[speedster352]

Wym

The mass involving the artic ocean is inconsistent

 

[Majinere566]

The mass involving the artic ocean is inconsistent

Well forget about that DemonGodMitchAubin evaluated the calc and said the condensation method is good to use so Low 6-B Tarmiel

 

[ByAsura]

When does the databook call it an ocean?

 

[Zezu1995]

When does the databook call it an ocean?

eh hard to say we got alot of pink raw pages we aint see, like ludos details there was one for sariel and tarmiel. but the same gloss i gave about ludos speed also had the other graces on it tho idk what it says

 

[Nacht]

(4koa leaks Ch 51)
Guys, I found on Reddit of a Japanese spoilers for the next chapter of Mokishiroku No Yonkishi

The chapter begins with Pelgart, who remains dissatisfied with having traveled a long distance in vain. But he's still in a good mood, he has a few laughs and then he flies away from that place to an as-yet-unknown location.

We arrived in Liones!
Lancelot then leads the group towards Liones Castle, and in a comical scene, Percival is distracted by a candy stand on the way to the Castle, and there they stop for a while to buy something for Percival, who insists. Donny and Percival are excited, Nasiens looks a little thoughtful, and Anne, who was previously worried, is now excited to be on her way to meeting the King of Liones.

When leaving the candy stand, they walk towards the castle, which was very close, and when they reach the front, they realize how heavily armed Liones' army is. Knights to the north, south, east and west protect the Castle. It is said that each of the lowest level knights protecting this castle has strength far superior to that of Fiddich. Liones' defensive lane, as explained by Lancelot, has quasi-passive stun spells, which paralyze and impede the movement of opponents. He hinted that with everyone working together, the magic works in an area that covers the whole of Liones and only stops working when the knights in the defensive area are not active, so Liones' group has remained intact during For the past 16 years, should a knight or someone of unknown magic come into contact with the invisible aura that cloaks Liones, they are automatically stunned and defeated without even realizing it, as was the case with several of King Arthur's knights who tried to invade the Kingdom.

Lancelot and the group arrive at the entrance of the Castle, and the knights make way for him, some kneel, saluting him as "the prince" is also as the "strong warrior".
Nasiens, Anne and Donny were left in the care of the guards, and only Lancelot and Percival were allowed to enter. At this, Anne becomes enraged and asks to come in, as she wanted to see the King of Liones.
Soon Gilthunder appears, who is temporarily replacing Hawser. He silences Anne, and the two have a funny argument right there. But Anne cannot gain access to the entrance.
Gilthunder then guides Percival and Lancelot to the top of the castle.

Percival feels a strong aura near him and it starts to sound, when he opens the door, Lancelot and Gilthunder kneel, saying that a part of the job is complete. Then a large tentacled creature quickly appears in silhouette, clings to Percival and lifts him up. King Meliodas is back, and he's looking the same, but with a straight face and actively using his Demon King Form, and so the chapter ends, with Meliodas saying the following sentence: "Even though we have 1% of chance, we still have 100% hope."

On the cover it says something like: The first deity appears, and the course of history will change completely. What's with King Meliodas? What will your goal be?

 

[Nacht]

Meliodas treated like a deity.

 

[ByAsura]

That sounds really fake, but I'll probably eat my words soon enough.

 

[Nacht]

I thought the same, but we'll see soon!!

 

[Majinere566]

https://**********/read/imgur/tge9UWa/1/1/

New chapter

 

[ByAsura]

So those leaks were complete BS.

@Nacht Do you have the Tarmiel scan in the guidebook?

 

[Majinere566]

(4koa leaks Ch 51)
Guys, I found on Reddit of a Japanese spoilers for the next chapter of Mokishiroku No Yonkishi

The chapter begins with Pelgart, who remains dissatisfied with having traveled a long distance in vain. But he's still in a good mood, he has a few laughs and then he flies away from that place to an as-yet-unknown location.

We arrived in Liones!
Lancelot then leads the group towards Liones Castle, and in a comical scene, Percival is distracted by a candy stand on the way to the Castle, and there they stop for a while to buy something for Percival, who insists. Donny and Percival are excited, Nasiens looks a little thoughtful, and Anne, who was previously worried, is now excited to be on her way to meeting the King of Liones.

When leaving the candy stand, they walk towards the castle, which was very close, and when they reach the front, they realize how heavily armed Liones' army is. Knights to the north, south, east and west protect the Castle. It is said that each of the lowest level knights protecting this castle has strength far superior to that of Fiddich. Liones' defensive lane, as explained by Lancelot, has quasi-passive stun spells, which paralyze and impede the movement of opponents. He hinted that with everyone working together, the magic works in an area that covers the whole of Liones and only stops working when the knights in the defensive area are not active, so Liones' group has remained intact during For the past 16 years, should a knight or someone of unknown magic come into contact with the invisible aura that cloaks Liones, they are automatically stunned and defeated without even realizing it, as was the case with several of King Arthur's knights who tried to invade the Kingdom.

Lancelot and the group arrive at the entrance of the Castle, and the knights make way for him, some kneel, saluting him as "the prince" is also as the "strong warrior".
Nasiens, Anne and Donny were left in the care of the guards, and only Lancelot and Percival were allowed to enter. At this, Anne becomes enraged and asks to come in, as she wanted to see the King of Liones.
Soon Gilthunder appears, who is temporarily replacing Hawser. He silences Anne, and the two have a funny argument right there. But Anne cannot gain access to the entrance.
Gilthunder then guides Percival and Lancelot to the top of the castle.

Percival feels a strong aura near him and it starts to sound, when he opens the door, Lancelot and Gilthunder kneel, saying that a part of the job is complete. Then a large tentacled creature quickly appears in silhouette, clings to Percival and lifts him up. King Meliodas is back, and he's looking the same, but with a straight face and actively using his Demon King Form, and so the chapter ends, with Meliodas saying the following sentence: "Even though we have 1% of chance, we still have 100% hope."

On the cover it says something like: The first deity appears, and the course of history will change completely. What's with King Meliodas? What will your goal be?

So this clearly didn't happen lol.

 

[Lormac_CC]

Mel refuses to grow

 

[Majinere566]

And he still didn't change his fit(well except from his tie)

 

[ByAsura]

Zeldris is physically 252 (the seal stopped the demons from growing old) and Demons have lifespans of 1000 years, so I’m surprised Meliodas and Zeldris don’t look like they’re in their 20s.

That’s a detail they got right with Gowther, Monspeet and Derieri.

 

[Zezu1995]

Zeldris is physically 252 (the seal stopped the demons from growing old) and Demons have lifespans of 1000 years, so I’m surprised Meliodas and Zeldris don’t look like they’re in their 20s.

That’s a detail they got right with Gowther, Monspeet and Derieri.

that got retcon , same with goddesss cuz demons can live in purgatory for millions of years.. also cant liz also live in pyrgatory?

 

[speedster352]

I looked at the DK thread, and I didn't see any different arguments.

What about the upgrade for king his durability should be higher with the pollen garden.

 

[Zezu1995]

any1 got the chapter of merlin taking mels power?

 

[Majinere566]

Nope I've been looking for it