Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

[helper]

Can you try to calc all the feats in nnt? There are so many good ones overlooked by the prisoners of the sky movie the island in the celestial realms is huge much larger than Britannia.

how uk how big they are

 

[speedster352]

how uk how big they are

There was a statement on the sky island's size. The sky island is even larger than Britannia

 

[ByAsura]

I was suggesting that he could just talk about them not having enough power to clear it you don’t have a statement backing your argument since we were discussing the meaning of

You're trying to dispute this meaning based on this baseless information to begin with.

He know about his father’s creation and the PL needed to clean it it was just another suggestion my base claim is to wait for the novels before talking which you already conceded to

Again, you're making up that he needed to know about the PL. Literally all he said is that raw power cannot clear miasma.

Also, I have to ask, when does he say he knows DK made the Demon World? Far as I can tell, the only time that was ever mentioned was the guide book and the Lady of the Lake's explanation.

You agreed on Chaos creation scaling his AP he created the lake his dimension purgatory etc… he is stated to be able to destroy it too and has been shown to have enough range with his power to affect multiple planes at the same time

We scale Chaos above DK and SD, not equally to them.

Not in Physicals unfortunately

Good, prove why they should?

The magic in itself is an energy output

An unknown output, until those novels come out and maybe confirm what you're saying.

I don’t think it’s ever stated that darkness and miasma are the same miasma is produced by the negative energy

I didn't say they were. They say it's miasma at Corand, and it was powered by Meliodas' negative energy.

The lake creation is an energy output

What lake creation?

The dimension creations are applied to other verse as AP feats

And there's lots that aren't. NNT is not exclusive in this regard, and I'm sick to death of people treating it as if it is.

Some feats aren’t even calculated too btw

Like what? Give actual examples because just saying this isn't even helpful.

Which won’t help anything since the novels will have the last word anyway

Yes, I know, you've said this before. But they haven't even come out.

On this note, is there actually a light novel coming out? It took only 11 days for the Prisoners of the Sky light novel to come out, but it's been almost a year since the film.

What is applied to some verse should be applied to others especially in similar cases

I'm taking your word that this is even a similar case.

Also, you know what we didn't do this for? Naruto.

I won’t respond anymore I really need to sleep I have what I wanted aka you waiting for the novels/not making suggestions as if it would supersede other hypothesis

Then don't respond. I'm not forcing you.

 

[speedster352]

There was a statement on the sky island's size. The sky island is even larger than Britannia

You're trying to dispute this meaning based on this baseless information to begin with.

Again, you're making up that he needed to know about the PL. Literally all he said is that raw power cannot clear miasma.

Also, I have to ask, when does he say he knows DK made the Demon World? Far as I can tell, the only time that was ever mentioned was the guide book and the Lady of the Lake's explanation.

We scale Chaos above DK and SD, not equally to them. So that other stuff is irrelevant.

Good, prove why they should?

An unknown output, until those novels come out and confirm what you're saying.

I didn't say they were. They say it's miasma at Corand, and it was powered by Meliodas' negative energy.

What lake creation?

And there's lots that aren't. NNT is not exclusive in this regard, and I'm sick to death of people treating it as if it is.

Like what? Just saying this isn't even helpful.

Yes, I know, you've said this before. But they haven't even come out.

I'm taking your word that this is even a similar case.

Then don't respond. I'm not forcing you.

The six knights of black and indura were a threat to the sky islands what would this yield?

 

[ByAsura]

Again, I don't know. Majin is currently looking into that.

 

[speedster352]

Again, I don't know. Majin is currently looking into that.

Find any other impressive feats? Did you apply the changes from mine and makai crt?

 

[speedster352]

Again, I don't know. Majin is currently looking into that.

Any progress?

 

[ByAsura]

I didn't find any impressive feats, I unfortunately couldn't make the rest of the changes, and I haven't made progress.

 

[ByAsura]

I was looking for the Prisoners of the Sky novel (I'll let everyone know if I find it), and I did happen upon this line that Sky Island has huge mountains.

 

[speedster352]

I was looking for the Prisoners of the Sky novel (I'll let everyone know if I find it), and I did happen upon this line that Sky Island has huge mountains.

In other words?

 

[ByAsura]

Someone can use that to calc the size.

 

[speedster352]

Someone can use that to calc the size.

What would that yield as a low ball? I mean there was a statement of the sky island being larger than britannia

 

[ByAsura]

Idk, probably like tens of km across.

Where?

 

[speedster352]

Idk, probably like tens of km across.

Where?

The movie and the databook

 

[ByAsura]

Can you be more specific or link scans, because I can't find it in the movie and have no idea what databook you're talking about.

 

[speedster352]

Can you be more specific or link scans, because I can't find it in the movie and have no idea what databook you're talking about.

Look in the previous comments in the 4koa dicussion

 

[ByAsura]

Couldn't find it.

Is this the countless island thing?

 

[speedster352]

Couldn't find it.

Is this the countless island thing?

Yeah

 

[ByAsura]

I think that refers to the Celestial Realm, which has the same kanji, as a whole.

The number of islands on the Sky Temple is countable.

 

[speedster352]

I think that refers to the Celestial Realm, which has the same kanji, as a whole.

The number of islands on the Sky Temple is countable.

Destroying the whole thing would yield?

 

[ByAsura]

Assuming it's 20 km across and 8 deep, that's 6 gigatons (Island level).

 

[speedster352]

Assuming it's 20 km across and 8 deep, that's 6 gigatons (Island level).

With vaporization? Is there a high end since there is a large mountain?

 

[ByAsura]

Vaporizing something 90 km across and 36 km deep is Continent level.

But we've seen Baruja's beam in action, so I strongly doubt it.

 

[speedster352]

Vaporizing something 90 km across and 36 km deep is Continent level.

But we've seen Baruja's beam in action.

Yes however hawk mama swallowed it was heavily implied that it destroy all of the sky island even the 6 knights of black could.

 

[ByAsura]

She swallowed one of them, IIRC. There were more.

It's said the 6 Knights could destroy them (IIRC, we do see Bellion partially fragment 1 island, taking it out of the sky), but I don't remember anything about vaporization.

 

[speedster352]

She swallowed one of them, IIRC. There were more.

It's said the 6 Knights could destroy them (IIRC, we do see Bellion partially fragment 1 island, taking it out of the sky), but I don't remember anything about vaporization.

His strongest lightning attack was going to destroy the sky island and the indura would have one-shotted it

 

[Majinere566]

https://**********/read/gist/JPBkA/66/1/

 

[ByAsura]

We outright see Indura fire at a smaller island, and it simply collapses.

Bellion just says they can die, suggesting he'll kill the survivors on the main island.

 

[speedster352]

We outright see Indura fire at a smaller island, and it simply collapses.

Bellion just says they can die, suggesting he'll kill the survivors on the main island.

Which he was going to destroy and the indura is way stronger

 

[ByAsura]

I'm not saying they can't destroy the main island, just that absolutely nothing even remotely begins to portray it as vaporization.

 

[speedster352]

I'm not saying they can't destroy the main island, just that absolutely nothing even remotely begins to portray it as vaporization.

Lightning vaporizes things remember 5x the heat of the sun

 

[ByAsura]

Lightning also melts stuff and produces force.

Even if this is similar to actual lightning simply based on appearance, your assumption that he'd vaporize the whole island is still unfounded.

 

[Le'garde273]

Vaporizing something 90 km across and 36 km deep is Continent level.

But we've seen Baruja's beam in action, so I strongly doubt it.

When hawk mama absorb it, it's kinda vaporizing steam doesn't it?

 

[ByAsura]

I think a bit.

Considering that its blasts can make huge ass explosions, I don't doubt it has some heat aspect. But vaporizing islands simply isn't shown or implied in the film.

 

[speedster352]

I think a bit.

Considering that its blasts can make huge ass explosions, I don't doubt it has some heat aspect. But vaporizing islands simply isn't shown or implied in the film.

Seriously it was stated multiple times that the sky islands are doomed because of the indura and that was heavily shown and implied this is just incredulity

 

[Rabbit2002]

Tristan in the new chapter can resist soul manip, I guess. Melascula has EE with chaos power

 

[ByAsura]

Seriously it was stated multiple times that the sky islands are doomed because of the indura and that was heavily shown and implied this is just incredulity

That's because you're twisting the hell out of my words.

What I said was that it's shown they're capable of destroying and collapsing them, but not vaporizing them.

 

[speedster352]

Tristan in the new chapter can resist soul manip, I guess. Melascula has EE with chaos power

But the 4koa still don't have a profile

 

[Le'garde273]

Tristan in the new chapter possible can resist soul manip

Man, this scan can be more evidence for lancelot being ftl without outlier thing
Easily dodging fiddich and plus evading chaos galland that should be much supperior than every single camelot holy knight

 

[speedster352]

That's because you're twisting the hell out of my words.

What I said was that it's shown they're capable of destroying and collapsing them, but not vaporizing them.

But lightning can vaporize things(5x the sun's heat) and the indura beam caused steam and lightning so that's on the grounds for vaporization. Bellion playing around was destroying various islands and they were going to nuke it with power lightning or indua beam so vaporization and pulverization should be used.