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Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

I think y’all forgotten but Melascula was never dead. She was kept in a bottle because of Merlin….but now I know that Merlin is actually a bad guy

EDIT: im sorry but am I the only one who doesn’t really like Merlin? I mean she never really cared much about the group or anyone unless they pique her interest
 
ByAsura said:
We can't even say it actually reached Liones since that happened well after, and they were only shown in a few human settlements at that time. But, I think this is fine as a high-end.

Goddamn this is some bs. I'll respond soon.

Edit: Less of it was bs than I thought, but here's the bs (though what I only care about).

When Meliodas appeared, Galand was not expecting him to have gotten that much stronger than when they fought in Camelot.

And permanently denting Galand's face to begin with. Even Ban, who surpassed Galand in physical strength and had a weapon, couldn't do that. So the gap is quite large.

The following hits were the result of Meliodas being more skilled, agile and/or faster than Galand

The following is a bunch of bs. It's the result of Mel being way faster and stronger.

Back to the Meliodas vs Galand fight, Meliodas was not able to one shot Galand. He had to land multiple hits and cuts on him before Galand went down. This is consistent with them being somewhat relative in strength and possibly durability.

Each of which severely harmed Galand.

Excuse me? When was it stated that Lostvayne amps Meliodas's strength? All it was shown to be able to do was let Meliodas clone himself which lets him use Full Counter on an attack consecutive times.

Firstly, it's straight up how they work. Secondly, Meliodas carving apart Albion's arm with air slashes is something he couldn't even begin to do prior (admittedly, it was somewhat scuffed, but it literally broke against Albion).

The albion have a total power level of 5,500. However, that doesn't mean their strength level is higher than Meliodas.

It is. Meliodas had no chance without a weapon and had to dodge all of his attacks.

First off, there are two types of albions - fat and tall ones.

Their power levels are listed as exactly comparable with no noted differences in individual stats.

The tall one is the one which cleaved apart a small mountain, implying it specializes more in strength.

No it doesn't. That just suggests the tall one uses its extremely long and pliable limbs to form shockwaves.

Meanwhile, the fat albion which attacked Camelot tried to use a magic breath attack to destroy the kingdom instead of a physical attack, implying that it specializes more in magic.

It tried physical attacks first, and only attacked with magic once the barrier it noticed while attacking physically had been disabled.

So Meliodas being able to cut the fat albion's arms when it's a giant, easy to hit target and can't even dodge, is not inconsistent as most of the fat albion's power level could be magic (which is implied by the way it tried to destroy Camelot) while its strength stat could be relative to Meliodas'.

It could withstand its own Full Countered magical attacks with moderate damage. So it scales to its own magic attacks, and carving it up isn't as easy as you're trying to claim.
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As a Grace, anything he shreds with this wind can't recover as was seen when Derieri's arm didn't regenerate from being shredded by the blessing Surprisingly Estarossa with Two Commandments could regenerate from his wind sphere and his Tsunzaku Kamakaze[2]).
So can high ranking demons stronger than 2c Estarossa scale?
 
I guess you could calc the clouds she made, but the one in NNT is probably better for calcing.
 
ByAsura said:
I mean the one Melascula made.
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Don’t you think we should make profiles for the games characters ? 7DS Grand Cross Lillia has statements about destroying the world on multiple occasions as well as Camillia
 
4KOTA Chapter 23:
Chaos:
-Healing
-Poison Manip
Both Here (It could also be a form of his RW that reverse the effects yet could be added as a side effect)

Cursed By light:
Chaos:
-Here What seems to be some kind of matter manip or rapid aging since he killed these giants at most hours before (The sketch draws from the movie seems to show the giants as normal dead bodies with their skin etc… They changed it so it should be an important facet of his power)

4KOTA Chapter 64:
Chaos:
-Power Bestowal (Gave a power up to Galand And Merasculla)
-Resurrection (Is stated to be the one that Resurrected Galand And Merasculla)
-Soul manipulation (Is affecting their souls in purgatory this is also an Interdimensional range feat for his Soul Manip) Here is the feat

NNT:
Derrierie:
-Statistic amplification And Damage Boost (With combo Star each time she hit the force is amplified)

Meliodas:
-Berserker
-Enhanced Rage Power
-Statistics Amplification with Wrath form
(He isn’t himself anymore and the more he become enraged the more power he can draw from this form) See Here for the feats (The 3 above can be applied to AM Meli due to This)

Original Demon:
-Reactive Power lvl with Crisis (The more he gets hit the more his power will raise)

Galand:
-Statistic Amplification with Critical Over


Calculation request if someone have time (It won’t be really interesting but could be a nice back up) Here

This is What i have ftm
 
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7DS Grand Cross discussion

Hi this will be the discussion thread about the game 7DS Grand Cross it’s feats and scaling. I saw the game profiles were not on this wiki but they have entirely New content that is exclusive to the game’s plot.
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Here is the discussion for Grand Cross you can participate to it even if you don’t play the game (You should play it it’s very good)
 
ByAsura said:
That's probably quite impressive, then.

If you can make good profiles out of them, sure.
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Excuse me would the KE for a tornado pulverising rocks be high ?
Cause the game has a feat about pulverising a whole mountain (+ a forest aside) and idk how high it could be
 
the calc not worth it, do u have any other storm calc thats in sds













?
 
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Makai said:
Don’t you think we should make profiles for the games characters ? 7DS Grand Cross Lillia has statements about destroying the world on multiple occasions as well as Camillia
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Yes, but it was an event in the past, I can't find it anymore. But yeah, lilia disaster capable maybe to destroying the world, distorting 7ds world and tensura world, they even fight at the space time junction, place that beyond time and space. Honestly grand cross event have such a good feats. Even nakaba make some good event boss in the game, like baruja one of demon that galland partner can distort space time
 
Aether_ said:
Yes, but it was an event in the past, I can't find it anymore. But yeah, lilia disaster capable maybe to destroying the world, distorting 7ds world and tensura world, they even fight at the space time junction, place that beyond time and space. Honestly grand cross event have such a good feats. Even nakaba make some good event boss in the game, like baruja one of demon that galland partner can distort space time
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Yeah the feats are cool come to the discussion I linked above if you have any ideas for their scaling
 
Makai said:
I think the highest recorded tornado only displaced objects of like 13 to 15 tons wouldn’t pulverising rock on a Mountain sized range And more be impressive using it’s KE
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Probably not.

Can you link the mountain feat?
helper said:
the calc not worth it, do u have any other storm calc thats in sds

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That was debunked a while ago due to storm calculation revisions. Even then, we concluded in another thread that his storms weren't even that large.
 
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