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[LightSoul8]

It's not a "coma", he's dead and in a hell created or at least controlled by TOYSNHK

"This time, there is more than an illusion to fear"

"I am remade, but not by you"

The second quote means jack-shit, but that first quote does support the Hell theory. I wanted to believe that it was Hell, but I thought we all agreed that it was a coma. So, to get clarification, let's do a poll:

UCN is coma:

UCN is Hell: 1 (@LightSoul8)

UCN is something (neutral):

(If you wouldn't mind, I would appreciate you guys explicitly telling me which one you believe in, just for clarity's sake.)

Actually, we should probably use polls for a lot of our opinions, like whether the books are legit or not.

 

[ShionAH]

The second quote means jack-shit, but that first quote does support the Hell theory. I wanted to believe that it was Hell, but I thought we all agreed that it was a coma. So, to get clarification, let's do a poll:

UCN is coma:

UCN is Hell: 1 (@LightSoul8)

UCN is something (neutral):


Actually, we should probably use polls for a lot of our opinions, like whether the books are legit or not.

Man in Room whatever number story implies its a coma actually but generally the game implies its hell

 

[Perequeliri993]

Although I do believe lore wise it's a dream/nightmare, I don't think there's enough evidence to support it for the wiki's standards

 

[BigSmoke4269]

We can't scale them to Fredbear due to being nightmares inspired by him, can we?

no not at all lol

I dont think they should even have profiles tbh

it’s not like they don’t warrant profiles. i’m pretty sure they have decent speed and abilities, just shit ap lol

 

[DaReaperMan]

no not at all lol

it’s not like they don’t warrant profiles. i’m pretty sure they have decent speed and abilities, just shit ap lol

Yeah, they got like, 10-B or so AP and like 9-C durability for being M E T A L lol

 

[ShionAH]

Give them Abstarct Existence lol

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Yeah, they got like, 10-B or so AP and like 9-C durability for being M E T A L lol

i feel like we should go off of feats only, speculating based on appearance doesn’t seem like a good idea considering that they’re from dreams where logic really doesn’t apply

plus even if you do go off of their appearance they are in extremely poor condition

 

[DaReaperMan]

i feel like we should go off of feats only, speculating based on appearance doesn’t seem like a good idea considering that they’re from dreams where logic really doesn’t apply

plus even if you do go off of their appearance they are in extremely poor condition

Normally yeah I'd agree with you but uh

What ****** feats?

Metal, even in shit condition, still takes a lot of force to bend and break, not exactly stuff you'd call human level

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Normally yeah I'd agree with you but uh

What ****** feats?

feats

• can kill a child
• can easily lift the child in question off of the ground
• runs around decently fast i think

anti featsssss

• cant break through or force open a door being held closed by the child
• unable to attack crying child before he can shut the door

their feats are not very good but since these are dream characters they’re all we can really use

Metal, even in shit condition, still takes a lot of force to bend and break, not exactly stuff you'd call human level

depends on a whole lot of factors which can’t really be taken into account in a dream like this

 

[ShionAH]

can kill a child

they dont really kill him tbh, the bite of 83 does since CC is in coma

 

[BigSmoke4269]

the jumpscare followed by the torrent of blood covering the screen should imply well enough that the animatronics kill him in the dream i thinkkkkk

 

[DaReaperMan]

feats

• can kill a child
• can easily lift the child in question off of the ground
• runs around decently fast i think

anti featsssss

• cant break through or force open a door being held closed by the child
• unable to attack crying child before he can shut the door

their feats are not very good but since these are dream characters they’re all we can really use

depends on a whole lot of factors which can’t really be taken into account in a dream like this

I'm talking about durability, which they got nothing for

And the other two are probably mechanics to make it actually possible, but eh, use em if you wish

 

[BigSmoke4269]

I'm talking about durability, which they got nothing for

as long as they have something for ap we can scale their dura to that

 

[Perequeliri993]

Maybe you could do for the dura a 'possibly 9-C'?

 

[DaReaperMan]

as long as they have something for ap we can scale their dura to that

True

Maybe you could do for the dura a 'possibly 9-C'?

I could agree with that

 

[ShionAH]

the jumpscare followed by the torrent of blood covering the screen should imply well enough that the animatronics kill him in the dream i thinkkkkk

Dont we literally hear the hospitals beeps when he dies? Implying he dies because his ******* head is crushed and is in coma lol

 

[Perequeliri993]

Dont we literally hear the hospitals beeps when he dies? Implying he dies because his ******* head is crushed and is in coma lol

What we saying is that he dies in the dream, not irl, but due to RE, we take it as if they kill him

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Maybe you could do for the dura a 'possibly 9-C'?

yeah sure

 

[BigSmoke4269]

revising the fnaf 4 profiles rn, should i do the ucn key as well? idk if you guys have come to a conclusion on that

 

[DaReaperMan]

revising the fnaf 4 profiles rn, should i do the ucn key as well? idk if you guys have come to a conclusion on that

Should do a UCN key

But uh, what FNaF4 profiles?

 

[LightSoul8]

The second quote means jack-shit, but that first quote does support the Hell theory. I wanted to believe that it was Hell, but I thought we all agreed that it was a coma. So, to get clarification, let's do a poll:

UCN is coma:

UCN is Hell: 1 (@LightSoul8)

UCN is something (neutral):

(If you wouldn't mind, I would appreciate you guys explicitly telling me which one you believe in, just for clarity's sake.)

Actually, we should probably use polls for a lot of our opinions, like whether the books are legit or not.

Actually, do we even need a poll for this, or does everyone just agree that it's Hell?

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Should do a UCN key

what are the stats for ucn, have you guys already come to a conclusion on that

But uh, what FNaF4 profiles?

all of them wdym

 

[Perequeliri993]

what are the stats for ucn, have you guys already come to a conclusion on that

There's an unevaluated calc for subsonic to supersonic UCN, but only that

 

[BigSmoke4269]

The second quote means jack-shit, but that first quote does support the Hell theory. I wanted to believe that it was Hell, but I thought we all agreed that it was a coma. So, to get clarification, let's do a poll:

UCN is coma:

UCN is Hell: 1 (@LightSoul8)

UCN is something (neutral):

(If you wouldn't mind, I would appreciate you guys explicitly telling me which one you believe in, just for clarity's sake.)

Actually, we should probably use polls for a lot of our opinions, like whether the books are legit or not.

ucn isn't necessarily "hell" but you could say it's william's personal hell
toysnhk blocked afton's soul off from a proper afterlife (which probably would have been actual hell) and trapped him in ucn. beyond that, the nature of ucn is completely unknown, and i think it's a bit silly to try to come to a definitive conclusion about it here when it's so vague in the game

 

[BigSmoke4269]

There's an unevaluated calc for subsonic to supersonic UCN, but only that

so the same as before?

may i add 9-B since nightmare bonnie can break through the security door

 

[DaReaperMan]

what are the stats for ucn, have you guys already come to a conclusion on that

all of them wdym

Current stats are 9-C for ripping hooman apart and Class 5 for the same thing

Don't know where speed is at beyond comparable to real world counterparts

 

[Perequeliri993]

so the same as before?

may i add 9-B since nightmare bonnie can break through the security door

Doesn't really break through it, just ignores it

 

[JustANormalLemon]

The second quote means jack-shit, but that first quote does support the Hell theory. I wanted to believe that it was Hell, but I thought we all agreed that it was a coma. So, to get clarification, let's do a poll:

UCN is coma:

UCN is Hell: 1 (@LightSoul8)

UCN is something (neutral):

(If you wouldn't mind, I would appreciate you guys explicitly telling me which one you believe in, just for clarity's sake.)

Actually, we should probably use polls for a lot of our opinions, like whether the books are legit or not.

I think It's both, afton mind trapped in hell in the form of a coma

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Doesn't really break through it, just ignores it

what
thats not how doors work

 

[BigSmoke4269]

why do the nightmares have self-sustenance and type 2 immortality? i don't think they're ever shown to have either ability, and their heavy breathing suggests that they possess biological functions of some sort

they shouldnt have teleportation either lol you can literally hear them walking, the only ones who teleport are freddy and his counterparts

 

[JustANormalLemon]

why do the nightmares have self-sustenance and type 2 immortality? i don't think they're ever shown to have either ability, and their heavy breathing suggests that they possess biological functions of some sort

Imm 2 scalin from N.Mangle and the jack-o's sinse the jack's are missing a lot of internal parts and mangle is mangle, N.Freedbear and nightmare can still function as just a head too, and idk I just know they need to breath that's all

what
thats not how doors work

I mean, the UCN hell coma is not exactly bound by the laws of logic when It's all created to turture willian so I can see the 3 plushes having selective intangibility to pass trough the door

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Imm 2 scalin from N.Mangle and the jack-o's sinse the jack's are missing a lot of internal parts and mangle is mangle

all of those characters are non-canon

N.Freedbear and nightmare can still function as just a head too

probably can't scale the standard animatronics to the final boss characters who are shown to have different abilities

I mean, the UCN hell coma is not exactly bound by the laws of logic when It's all created to turture willian so I can see the 3 plushes having selective intangibility to pass trough the door

that seems pretty convoluted honestly, we love occam's razor

 

[LightSoul8]

ucn isn't necessarily "hell" but you could say it's william's personal hell
toysnhk blocked afton's soul off from a proper afterlife (which probably would have been actual hell) and trapped him in ucn. beyond that, the nature of ucn is completely unknown, and i think it's a bit silly to try to come to a definitive conclusion about it here when it's so vague in the game

I think It's both, afton mind trapped in hell in the form of a coma

I agree with those, we probably don't need any votes given how vague UCN is.

Imm 2 scalin from N.Mangle and the jack-o's sinse the jack's are missing a lot of internal parts and mangle is mangle, N.Freedbear and nightmare can still function as just a head too, and idk I just know they need to breath that's all

I mean, Nightmare Mangle and the Jack-O-duo just sort of exist like that, it's not like Mangle or the Withereds where they were actually torn apart. Also, I don't think we can scale the Jack-O-duo to the other Nightmares considering that their physiology is different. Nightmare Fredbear and Nightmare functioning as a head is Transformation, not Immortality. I do think the Nightmares have some biological functions, though, they only seem to have lungs and brains (as can be seen with Nightmare.)

that seems pretty convoluted honestly, we love occam's razor

Occam's Razor ftw. Do we just want to say it's Teleportation like Golden Freddy from FNAF 1?

 

[BigSmoke4269]

Occam's Razor ftw. Do we just want to say it's Teleportation like Golden Freddy from FNAF 1?

i don't think so considering that chica is far less supernatural than the nightmares and should not be able to teleport but can also get through the security door

 

[LightSoul8]

i don't think so considering that chica is far less supernatural than the nightmares and should not be able to teleport but can also get through the security door

Oh. Game Mechanics then?

 

[BigSmoke4269]

how is it game mechanics lol

 

[LightSoul8]

how is it game mechanics lol

because I'm pretty sure that the only reason Chica and other similar animatronics bypass the doors is because half of the gimmicks would be worthless when you could just shut both doors

 

[BigSmoke4269]

ok but what exactly stops us from counting it as a feat

 

[LightSoul8]

Because they make no sound when "breaking through the doors" but characters that actually DO interact with the doors (Freddy, Nightmare Fredbear, etc.) make a knock noise when hitting the doors.

Unless we're talking about speed feats for instantly appearing at the office, in which case, go ahead

 

[CBslayeR]

UCN seems more like a purgatory than Hell outright based on OMC's words