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the novel is canon on what doesn't go against the series, and BTN just fixed Gilver being Vergil thing to a Angelo ... The manga would already cover this by making Dante and Vergil meet again a year before the events of DMC3, also many demons that Dante fought weren't referenced in the story after (Even great ones (soon to be upgraded to Demon King level) like Abigail), doesn't mean they were yeeted from canon
I don't remember if it was Itsuno or Matt but there is a interview where they basically said everything is canon, now for the stuff that doesn't make sense?
I didn't say the novel as a whole is non-canon, but that Gilver is the most non-canon thing about the novel.
The issue that makes Gliver widely considered to be non-canon isn't about a plot hole about where a clone might come from, but about Dante in the DMC3 manga not seeing Vergil since his mother's death.
Dante was 18 in the manga, so the novel would have to happen shortly before it (a couple of years at most); Vergil sadistically killing Dante's friends and mother figure before Dante killed him would warrant more than: 'I haven't seen you in forever, I thought you were dead'. So unlike Abigail, Gilver does go against the series, as the meeting in the manga was referenced in DMC3.
Found the spirits quote by the way:
I mean none of the demons were tanking bullets from any gun to begin with. It is a big jump from 'I modified this gun for it to have a higher fire rate and for it to be more accurate' to: 'this is a matter disintegration weapon'.Dante thought the guns would be useless because the armor was repelling his physical attacks, none of Neil guns till that point were stronger than him nor where they different than normal guns but we know that those are far from normal guns, they were specially designed and made for Dante, its literally a pair of weapons that are completly different from anything she has made before and if I remember things correctly, there wasn't any demon that could tank the bullets from E&I in the novel. In short, Dante understimated the guns.
The faces are literally Gilver regret over discarding the guns as something human made and thus useless against him. In no moment where they amped.
lets read the passage:
Gilver realized that Dante had been gripping his chunky black pistols the whole time. His dead arms fell, pulling the guns out of their upside-down holsters. Dante squeezed both triggers as his hands arced down, unleashing a hail of bullets. The barrels were just centimeters from Gilver, who flung his hands over his face. The bullets that erupted from Goldstein's final project tore through the air as though they were alive, vengefully seeking out Gilver. The demon instantly knew he had made a mistake in writing off the guns as useless tools made by human hands. Just before the bullets tore through it, he knew his black armor would prove useless. The impacts shattered his suit, creating a network of spidery cracks across its surface. "Impossible!" Gilver howled. The cracks began to glow. "Jackpot!" spat Dante. "But you've lost! I've wo-ugh...Argh!" Gilver's armor exploded. The bullets chewed away at his exposed body, gouging black holes in his flesh. And then Gilver saw it clearly. Something within the bullets themselves. He saw a flash of Goldstein's leathery face-of Grue's angry expression. An unnatural fear iced over his mind. Something inside him blew apart, smashing his body into the ceiling. He fell violently back to the ground. The bullets continued on beyond him, punching through the demonic world's wall. |
Notice the underlined parts. This is not Gilver fuming: 'those darn humans managed to make powerful pistols'. He clearly saw something real within the bullets themselves, and they included the faces of Goldstein and Grue (who had nothing to do with making the guns).
My guess is that it has something to do with killing one of the top tier demons with a demonic power gun shot, though it requires more context.There was another one saying the bullets wipe demons out of existence (someone posted it in a discussion thread a long time ago) but some thought of it as bs and the thread was never made (I told you guys in the past already)