Fire Emblem Discussion thread: New Forum, New Mystery of the Emblem

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Bravekeeper vs One Billion Lions

 

[XitSign]

The Lions may have powerful techniques like their ladder formation...

But Bravekeeper won't rest until there's 'Nothing to Report'

 

[TheGatememer]

The power of memes is really something huh

 

[TheGatememer]

Huh. Neat

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Nifl isn't a mythic for some reason, probably so they can make Base Freyr playable next month

Edit: In Celebration of Charlotte finally escaping Alt Hell, I looked through Bride Charlotte's quotes and found this:

"Why am I in this gown? Like I know! I was daydreaming about marrying someone rich...
All of a sudden, you summoned me... And here I am, dressed like this!"

Cloth Manipulation and Weapon Creation (First Bite/First Bite+) for Kiran?

Edit 2: Also consistent with Bride Caeda, apparently

 

[TheGatememer]

If we give every character optional equipment in the form of inheritable weapons, they would actually gain quite a few abilities.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

I imagine we could at least do Seals as optional equipment

 

[TheGatememer]

Was gonna do Sacred Seals for my next crt actually

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

HORY SHEET

Spoiler

Nifl official art. Alfaoor is coming

oh yea btw Muspell is coming too

Huh. At least they're finally addressing that plot point.

Also, how much longer until Askr and Embla (the gods) are introduced?

 

[TheGatememer]

Huh. At least they're finally addressing that plot point.

Also, how much longer until Askr and Embla (the gods) are introduced?

Idk, but Muspell is probably gonna be introduced in the next Tempest Trials.

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

So Sharena mentioned the forbidden name in Arete's Meet the Heroes profile. Guess we're gonna find out if curses can cross dimensions...

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

I mean, it kind of already can in Fates

 

[TheGatememer]

unless Sharena has resistance to EE, I doubt that it has long enough range to reach into Askr since she was fine

 

[TheGatememer]

Made a scaling chain for Heroes because I was bored:

Alfaðör >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thórr >> Járngreipr >>>> Eitri >>> Reginn with Gramr >>>> Beast Fáfnir >>> Fáfnir >>>> Freyja/Freyr >> Nótt > Kiran >>>> Ótr > Alfonse >= Hel >>>> Surtr >>> Ashunera >> Yune/Ashera >>>> Radiant Dawn Ike/Prime Greil > Black Knight >>> PoR Ike >>> Future Past Grima > Grima > Chrom Amped by Naga > Robin Post-Resurrection >>> Naga/Chrom/Marth/Future Past Lucina/Future Past Tiki > Dark Dragon Medeus >> Divine Dragon Tiki > Earth Dragon Medeus >> Duma >= Alm >= Mila >>> True Form Anankos >> Sealed Anankos >= Omega Yato Corrin >>>> Dragon Form Garon/Possessed Takumi >= Corrin Post-Resurrection >>>> Corrin with Blazing/Shadow Yato >>> True Form Garon >= King Garon >>> Corrin with Noble/Grim/Alpha Yato > Xander/Ryoma Post-Rainbow Sage’s Trial >>> Xander/Ryoma >> Corrin Post-Rainbow Sage’s Trial >>> Corrin with Base Yato >= Takumi/Leo >> Dragon Form Corrin >> Base Xander/Ryoma >= Laslow >> Base Corrin >>> Sakura/Elise >= Remnants of First Dragon’s power = Baseline 2-A

ofc, most of this will probably become pointless later on as Baseline 2-A will become Low 1-C, and everyone from at least Hel onwards will be 1-C.

 

[XitSign]

You forgot: Gatekeeper infinite*>Alfaðör

Interesting, shame a majority of them probably won't get on the wiki meaningfully.

I assume the rest of the cast is either haphazardly sprinkled in/at least the baseline you set?

 

[TheGatememer]

Yea the rest are sprinkled in somewhere. Idk where to put some of them. (Like the TMS characters are basically the Archanea/Awakening Characters but a lot stronger, but idk if that would put them above or below the Tellius Characters)

Though I do think that Mythic/Legendary/Brave Heroes have a shot at being 1-C, due to being a lot stronger than normal Heroes. So if I had to place them somewhere, probably somewhere at least around Hel tier.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Well, Ike was once referred to as the "strongest Hero", which using that logic would probably be Fallen Ike now given that he's a theoretical Ike amped by Lehran's Medallion made canon

 

[TheGatememer]

Well, Ike was once referred to as the "strongest Hero", which using that logic would probably be Fallen Ike now given that he's a theoretical Ike amped by Lehran's Medallion made canon

I’d still say Legendary Ike is stronger, due to his status as a Legendary Hero

 

[Ovrhide]

Don’t think game mechanics means anything honestly. This wiki doesn’t accept scaling just by that. You really have to prove why you believe X > Y with actual evidence from the story.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

There are occasions where in game stats can be used as a reference points to distinguish speed over power characters from vice versa, but in game stats alone shouldn't be used for making scaling chains just because the character has better average stats and the like.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Most OCs getting Legendary or Mythic kinda ruined the importance of it at least it slows down the arrival of Medeus in FEH so he'll be absolutely busted when he finally does come out

 

[TheGatememer]

Don’t think game mechanics means anything honestly. This wiki doesn’t accept scaling just by that. You really have to prove why you believe X > Y with actual evidence from the story.

I actually didn't use any game mechanics for this otherwise fallen edelgard would be at the top of the list

here, and here its stated that Legendary/Mythic heroes are kind of a league on their own, at least in terms of comparing them to regular heroes. Legendary Heroes aren't just a game mechanic, they are a real thing in Heroes canon, as seen with Legendary Ike

Most OCs getting Legendary or Mythic kinda ruined the importance of it at least it slows down the arrival of Medeus in FEH so he'll be absolutely busted when he finally does come out

Not necessarily, as not all Legendary/Mythic Heroes are on the same level. They just have a baseline, which I'd say is probably somewhere around Surtr, or maybe Hel tier.

 

[Ovrhide]

There are occasions where in game stats can be used as a reference points to distinguish speed over power characters from vice versa, but in game stats alone shouldn't be used for making scaling chains just because the character has better average stats and the like.

My point exactly. Pretty sure that was a huge problem in this wiki with Pokémon, with Pokémon who have in game stats that just outright contradict feats and logic.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Oh yeah, might make FEH Low 1-C

 

[TheGatememer]

Hey that’s my line

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Fine, I'll do it myself

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

Can't say I saw that one coming, but hey: more fuel for the FE4 remake fire.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

Right after Charlotte got out of Alt Hell, Vika and Lifis got thrown in. One step forward, two steps back...

But hey! Brave Heroes are coming!

 

[TheGatememer]

Oh yay 4 star Surtr.

Surtr refine coming soon

Oh NO 4 star Surtr

 

[TheGatememer]

1-B Gatekeeper

 

[XitSign]

So like...actually or are we memeing?

With Heroes Stats it's been hard to tell lately.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Where's 1-B coming from now?

 

[TheGatememer]

Where's 1-B coming from now?

memes

 

[XitSign]

I'm relieved I didn't miss anything, yet disappointed that the truth isn't accepted on the wiki for now.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Here's a downgrade from the past

 

[XitSign]

Well this isn't what I was expecting to see...ever.

Spoiler

 

[TheGatememer]

Well this isn't what I was expecting to see...ever.

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[TheGatememer]

small crt